Most of the fluff relating to the Space marines conquering planets was pre
heresy.
Post heresy SM are only really used as a very rapid response force deployed
in the main to react to and stabilise situations awaiting the far more
numerous and slower deploying IG to arrive and crush what is left.
Having said that the targets the Marines usually go for are those of
strategic importance like the defence facilities and command bunkers hoping
to destabilise the opposing forces and take them on piece meal as opposed
to the stand up wars of attrition that is normally the province of the IG.
G
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Makes sense, I have never been able to understand how 1000 men could
capture a planet on there own, as they have in several references in the GW
fluff...
"Peter Ramos" <primarch_at_...> on 25/03/2002 16:58:16
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Hi!
Quite frankly, why be inhibited by GW fluff? We know that not even they are
consistent. Also we have been slowly moving to our own fluff too. I see no
reason to follow the 1000 man chapter line. We should come up with stuff on
our own as it suits our needs.
Peter
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> Some Squat weapons were relatively recent inventions, for example the
> Hellfury Cannon mounted on the praetorian (big gun, not the collosus but
> looked simular). So should be post heresy.
>
> If we are doing this then in EOTS we need to come up with a fresh
solution
> for the Marines, either we make EOTS, Heresy era only or we find a way
for
> marines to have more than 10 companies in there entire empire (eg. the
> original solution where they could flesh out there armies with PDF, which
> had issues due to the PDF/Marine combination being too powerful).
>
> Unless they were restricted to a few PDF company cards which they could
use
> to flesh out there force.
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> Tom.
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> "Darryl Hilbig" <darrylhilbig_at_...> on 25/03/2002 16:27:44
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> This may require, if running a campaign or even a one off, that the
players
> specify either a pre-heresy game or a heresy game or post heresy game.
> This
> is where historical wargaming is much easier, just specify a year and
> nothing after that year can be used.
>
> If this is going to become a regular part of Netepic, or any game in this
> universe, a list for each of the above periods (structure wise) will have
> to
> be created for each list. Orks, Squats, and such will not have to worry
due
> to always knowing there tech before the heresy occurred in Human history.
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> Darryl H
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> >should only be one of certain chapters. On the flip side some (like me)
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