Ork Clans Cards Vote

From: Maksim-Smelchak <Max200_at_...>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:12:32 -0700

Heya,

I've had the same feeling that much of the Ork stuff is "undesirable." Our
Ork player in the beginning day of 2nd Edition Space Marine always played
for the fun of it and winning wasn't his objective. As long as some of his
units did something unpredictable or potentially embarrassing to the other
side, he was happy. He also particularly enjoyed knocking down buildings
with the Gutbustas on his gargants. I played Imperials back then (IG, SM,
Squat).

Now that I have my own Ork stuff, the only real reason I play some of the
lamer clans is for the fun of fielding their crazy looking detachments. The
old Deathskull command rule made them particularly turdy, but I like their
paint job! :) LOL. The Snakebites are about the same to me.

During my first league back in the early 1990s after the demise of Adeptus
Titanicus, we used to spot the Ork player a large number of points or let
him jazz up some of his units with extra stats (like the cards used to
give). I know that many other players have used the Orks successfully, but I
guess our league was just not Ork-inclined.

I'm for allowing a lower threshold number before additional clans can be
chosen. Even better would be to make up some new clans. Another option would
be to allow a larger number of cards for Ork players (it adds to the random
disorderly nature of Orks).

Cheers to all,
Maksim-Smelchak.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: brandu [mailto:brandu_at_...]
  Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:34 PM
  To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: [v5.0] Core Rules: Ork Clans Cards Vote


  Heya,

  Okay, the voting part can wait till the Orks book as long as we remember
to back-track to the main rules concerning the outcome of the vote and
duplicating units.

  As far as the issue that some clans "suck". That was myown personal
feelings about the Snakebite Clan. I am pretty sure that someone whose
preference is towards
  Close Combat doesn't mind the fact that Snakebite Clanhas a +2 CAF. They
would go along decently with the GoffClan on a CC mission.

  Now, their Clan specific "Detachments" on the other hand...

  The Boarboyz are the best of the two, with a +4CAF they are a little
better at CC but are also a little slower than bikeboyz(20cm) Points score
is about right being even with the Bikeboyz at 100. I personally would still
field the bikes.

  The Squigoths on the other hand... Cost 50points more thana like numberof
Gutrippa's. Are slower, It's CAF is higher(a 5 vs a 4) but at 10cm a move is
likely to be dead longbefore CC. Niether the Bombards or the Swivel guns
have a negative TSM, and the possibility of a 'rampage' after being wounded
is real deadly to my own forces considering the way Orks Command Rule
works...

  Maybe I am not being fair to them. I don't know. I can see where, against
no Save having troops they could beuseful I guess considering the shear
amount of shots they
  can make.

  The way that Ork Clans and their Detachments are purchasedand controlled
makes for a much different 'mentality' thanrunning, say, IG or SM's as I am
sure that you know.

  Tell you what. I will try taking the Snakebites for mynext game and I'll
let you know my feelings then.

  Brandu.
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