Re: [NetEpic ML] fascism in 40k

From: Albert Farr� Benet <cibernyam_at_...>
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 00:51:07 +0200

No intention of flaming at all, I just wanted to reason why political correctness should be left to disclaimers and first-page-small-readings instead of the rules.

Sorry if this discussion seemed to go out a bit off topic. As I said, there was no intention on start a thread on history or similar.

Albert
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Peter Ramos
  To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 12:07 AM
  Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] fascism in 40k


  Hi!

  Like I said, leave political correctness out of game design and review.
  I don't think any less of people on this list regardless of what you
  want to call a unit. As Weasel said its game.

  Please everyone, I realize things are civil so far, but this is one of
  those "dangerous" threads.

  Let it be.

  Peter

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Weasel Fierce [mailto:weasel_fierce_at_...]
  Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:50 PM
  To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] fascism in 40k


>good to read that people make differences between reality and
>game-worlds. the same with me.
>as an antifascist in reality (and unfortunately german -i am NOT
>proud of it, not at all , i feel cosmopolit!- i nevertheless play
>epic with a lot of fun, and also see the problems sometimes...(with
  most of
>battle
>games, not only tabletop - just think of starcraft or counterstrike or
>quake...)
>i think a disclaimer is a good idea - why not ?
>on the other hand sci-fi in generell has fascist elements...the 40k
>galaxy is not only 100% nazi but also contents of gothic medieval
>elements (middleage was fuckin brutal...), even of stalinism (former
>sovietunion)-elements - as a
>mixture of a brutal system ruling the galaxy...
>dont worry, i do not want to start a political discussion here (wrong
>place) - but sometimes i feel horrified when i see 12 year old
>children in gw-stores with the steel-legion in therr hands...
>...reflection is always good, and a disclaimer would demonstrate that
>this list is really cool, because (especially in germany after this
>big, horrible shoolmassacre where 13 teachers were killed in
>east-germany by a
>pupil/student the whole public is dissing wargames in generell and
>does not want to
>understand that playing games like this must not lead to brutal
>minds...

  The 40K universe is one of extreme brutality and suppression

  I am all for a disclaimer of sorts or a few words added in about
  historical
  similarities and that the game or its creators does not appreciate nazi
  /
  suppressive communist ideals etc.

  NetEpic is just a game,and should stay that way.


  Weasel


  How many lives will be taken today?
  How many times will we just look away?

  Pennywise - One voice


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