Hi!
I'll inform Tom, although I believe he has disclaimers up on the
Epicentre already.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Albert Farré Benet [mailto:cibernyam_at_...]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:26 PM
To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] fascism in 40k
I agree completely with both. It's always better to prevent any kind of
misunderstanding or problems with this topic.
I'd rather add this disclaimer on the Rules (That kind of small
paragraph in
lemmings size font that is usually never read, but anyway it's there)
and
ALSO in the web page, as probably is where most of the people get their
copy
of NetEpic.
I think it's a matter of image more than anything, because, as I said
before, anyone who plays NetEpic is quite aware of this difference
between
Reality & Fiction. Most of us are adult (I mean older than our country
legal
adult age) and responsible of our acts and appreciating this difference
is
supposed.
I'll also add that If anyone in this list is under the legal age of his
country, he MUST read the disclaimer once it is written. Well, they will
read it while we discuss the wording anyway.
I think this is REALLY important, what do people think? I think that
everybody should give his opinion on this topic (quite out of game
design)
because we are all playing with this game. Even lurkers. And also
because
this would be on the first page :-)
Albert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Weasel Fierce" <weasel_fierce_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] fascism in 40k
>
> >good to read that people make differences between reality and
> >game-worlds. the same with me.
> >as an antifascist in reality (and unfortunately german -i am NOT
> >proud of it, not at all , i feel cosmopolit!- i nevertheless play
> >epic with a lot of fun, and also see the problems sometimes...(with
most
of
> >battle
> >games, not only tabletop - just think of starcraft or counterstrike
or
> >quake...)
> >i think a disclaimer is a good idea - why not ?
> >on the other hand sci-fi in generell has fascist elements...the 40k
> >galaxy is not only 100% nazi but also contents of gothic medieval
> >elements (middleage was fuckin brutal...), even of stalinism (former
> >sovietunion)-elements - as a
> >mixture of a brutal system ruling the galaxy...
> >dont worry, i do not want to start a political discussion here (wrong
> >place) - but sometimes i feel horrified when i see 12 year old
> >children in gw-stores with the steel-legion in therr hands...
> >...reflection is always good, and a disclaimer would demonstrate that
> >this list is really cool, because (especially in germany after this
> >big, horrible shoolmassacre where 13 teachers were killed in
> >east-germany by a
> >pupil/student the whole public is dissing wargames in generell and
> >does not want to
> >understand that playing games like this must not lead to brutal
> >minds...
>
> The 40K universe is one of extreme brutality and suppression
>
> I am all for a disclaimer of sorts or a few words added in about
historical
> similarities and that the game or its creators does not appreciate
nazi /
> suppressive communist ideals etc.
>
> NetEpic is just a game,and should stay that way.
>
>
> Weasel
>
>
> How many lives will be taken today?
> How many times will we just look away?
>
> Pennywise - One voice
>
>
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