I always thought it was kind of iroic/cool that every race in the 40k
universe had it's vices and depending on your perspective the could
be described as evil. This is especially true from each races point
of view. It's easy to just assume that there are good and bad
groups. The humans are good and the aliens are nasty....WRONG. The
truth is that in the future, there is only war.
Mart Man
--- In netepic_at_y..., "Peter Ramos" <primarch_at_c...> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> No worries. I think you all have convinced me of adding a
disclaimer. It
> will save time and future anguish, its all good.
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Albert Farré Benet [mailto:cibernyam_at_h...]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:51 PM
> To: netepic_at_y...
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] fascism in 40k
>
> No intention of flaming at all, I just wanted to reason why
political
> correctness should be left to disclaimers and first-page-small-
readings
> instead of the rules.
>
> Sorry if this discussion seemed to go out a bit off topic. As I
said,
> there was no intention on start a thread on history or similar.
>
> Albert
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Peter Ramos <mailto:primarch_at_c...>
> To: netepic_at_y...
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 12:07 AM
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] fascism in 40k
>
> Hi!
>
> Like I said, leave political correctness out of game design and
review.
> I don't think any less of people on this list regardless of what you
> want to call a unit. As Weasel said its game.
>
> Please everyone, I realize things are civil so far, but this is one
of
> those "dangerous" threads.
>
> Let it be.
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Weasel Fierce [mailto:weasel_fierce_at_h...]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:50 PM
> To: netepic_at_y...
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] fascism in 40k
>
>
> >good to read that people make differences between reality and
> >game-worlds. the same with me.
> >as an antifascist in reality (and unfortunately german -i am NOT
> >proud of it, not at all , i feel cosmopolit!- i nevertheless play
> >epic with a lot of fun, and also see the problems sometimes...(with
> most of
> >battle
> >games, not only tabletop - just think of starcraft or
counterstrike or
> >quake...)
> >i think a disclaimer is a good idea - why not ?
> >on the other hand sci-fi in generell has fascist elements...the 40k
> >galaxy is not only 100% nazi but also contents of gothic medieval
> >elements (middleage was fuckin brutal...), even of stalinism
(former
> >sovietunion)-elements - as a
> >mixture of a brutal system ruling the galaxy...
> >dont worry, i do not want to start a political discussion here
(wrong
> >place) - but sometimes i feel horrified when i see 12 year old
> >children in gw-stores with the steel-legion in therr hands...
> >...reflection is always good, and a disclaimer would demonstrate
that
> >this list is really cool, because (especially in germany after this
> >big, horrible shoolmassacre where 13 teachers were killed in
> >east-germany by a
> >pupil/student the whole public is dissing wargames in generell and
> >does not want to
> >understand that playing games like this must not lead to brutal
> >minds...
>
> The 40K universe is one of extreme brutality and suppression
>
> I am all for a disclaimer of sorts or a few words added in about
> historical
> similarities and that the game or its creators does not appreciate
nazi
> /
> suppressive communist ideals etc.
>
> NetEpic is just a game,and should stay that way.
>
>
> Weasel
>
>
> How many lives will be taken today?
> How many times will we just look away?
>
> Pennywise - One voice
>
>
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