Hi!
I agree with Darius and Jar, that anything that can tunnel through rock
can effectively destroy a building. The flip side is off course will the
collapse building affect the tunneler? I would think so, although that
would be related to the tunnelers size. A hellbore would shrug off all
but the largest or structures. Trying to do a similar thing with a
termite is another matter.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: darius spano [mailto:dmanspano_at_...]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:11 AM
To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: [NetEpic ML] Tunnelers
If you can create a sinkhole for a titan I think there
should be a chance for a building collapsing into the
earth. You are blowing up the earth beneath it,
destroying or upsetting the buildings foundation
directly. Make it 4+ save on 2d6 to see if the
buidling collapses. Make mole mortars more worthwhile.
I did trap a Dominatrix in a mole mortar crater once
and it allowed my guild trikes to swarm her in CC in
kill the queen.
Dariu
--- nils.saugen_at_... wrote:
> Nae,IMO they do not have the firepower nor the cost
> to justify that type of
> effect!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eivind.borgeteien_at_chello.no
> [mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_...]
> Sent: 3. oktober 2002 11:26
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Sv: RE: [NetEpic ML] Tunnelers
>
>
> They do affect them, but with the craters they make,
> they should be given
> the "destroys buildings" buildings ablilty.
>
> Eivind
> >
> > Fra: nils.saugen_at_...
> > Dato: 2002/10/02 Wed PM 02:24:37 CEST
> > Til: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Emne: RE: [NetEpic ML] Tunnelers
> >
> > Well, mole mortars are barrage weapons aren't
> they??? Then they will
> affect
> > buildings....
> >
> > Nils
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: eivind.borgeteien_at_...
> [mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_...]
> > Sent: 2. oktober 2002 10:56
> > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Sv: [NetEpic ML] Tunnelers
> >
> >
> > Are this rules that different from the one we
> use?? The only thing I miss
> in
> > our rules is the reference to what happens when
> the tunneller surfaces in
> > buildings and impassible terrain.
> >
> > While we are on the subject of tunnelling weapons,
> shouldn't it be
> possible
> > for the mole mortars to destroy buildings? After
> all, they make craters
> that
> > traps superheavvies. I think such a crater in the
> fundations of a
> building
> > should be enough to destroy it.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > PS: I think it is "tunneller" :-)
> >
> > Eivind
> > >
> > > Fra: "AntiChrist" <seimejote_at_tiscalinet.it>
> > > Dato: 2002/10/02 Wed AM 09:00:53 CEST
> > > Til: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > Emne: [NetEpic ML] Tunnelers
> > >
> > > I've found these rules about tunnelers in an old
> White Dwarf, and
> > > they slightly differ from those in the Core
> Rules (see the value of
> > > transports). Here they are, maybe we can use
> them...
> > >
> > > Tunneler - At the start of the game any tunneler
> models are
> > > positioned on their transports along with the
> rest of the army. The
> > > tunnelers themselves are assumed to be
> underground from the beginning
> > > of the game, and the transports are left on the
> table. Although
> > > transporters don't have weapons and cannot move,
> they continue to act
> > > as guidance stations for the tunnelers. It is
> possible for the enemy
> > > to force a tunneler off-course by destroying its
> guiding transport
> > > vehicle as described later. A tunneler may
> attempt to surface during
> > > the Movement phase and is activated like any
> other unit. Declare the
> > > tunneler to be surfacing and roll 1d6: on a 1
> the tunneler has met
> > > some obstruction and may not surface that turn,
> on a 2+ the tunneler
> > > breaks through the surface. It does not move
> further during the turn
> > > it emerges above ground, but can move along the
> surface from the next
> > > turn. If the tunneler's transporter can be seen
> from the point where
> > > the tunneler intends to emerge proceed as
> follows: first nominate
> > > where you want to surface and then roll the
> Scatter die. If a Hit is
> > > rolled then the tunneler has emerged on target,
> if an Arrow is rolled
> > > the tunneler has missed its aiming point and
> instead emerge d6x5cm
> > > away in the direction indicated. If the
> transporter cannot be seen
> > > from the place where you want it to emerge, or
> if the transporter is
> > > destroyed, then roll the Scatter die in the same
> way but the distance
> > > will be d6x10cm for misses. Troops carried have
> independent orders
> > > from the transporting tunnelers, and may
> disembark the same turn the
> > > tunneler surfaces (they lose the normal 5cm of
> movement when they
> > > leave a transport). Once on the board, tunnelers
> may only move on the
> > > ground, always move in a straight line directly
> forward up to 15cm
> > > and do not double their move on Charge orders.
> Once the tunneler has
> > > completed its move for the turn may turn up to
> 45° so that it can
> > > move in a slightly different direction next
> turn. This is the only
> > > way to turn a tunneler and, as you can imagine,
> it makes them rather
> > > cumbersome. A tunneler can move through woods,
> trenches, foxholes,
> > > rocks and other broken ground without slowing
> down but marshes,
> > > rivers and other bodies of water are impassable
> once the tunneler has
> > > surfaced. A tunneler can emerge under a building
> or plough straight
> > > through one if moving overland. That is a bit
> reckless as the
> > > building can collapse as a result and there is a
> possibility that the
> > > tunneler may be crushed by tons of plummeting
> rubble. To see if the
> > > building survives, roll its basic Armor save: if
> it is failed the
> > > building collapses and any troops inside are
> killed. If the building
> > > collapses the tunneler may be trapped and
> destroyed, see its
> > > description in the relevant codex.
> > >
> > > BTW... is tunneler or tunneller?
> > >
> > >
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