Weapon Effects: 2nd Eldar Variant (long & 1st Effect un-Snipped)

From: Toma Diener <peyoterattle_at_...>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:04:42 -0000

Hello Again!

The second 'House Rule' we used in our game for Eldar Weaponry is a
pretty old one. All the way back to the original release of Epic _at_nd
edition, in fact! It arises from the ambiguous wording of the rule
dealing with combining Barrage Points in the original system:
Everyone knows that a Unit combines BP's as a Game effect, but the
original wordings didn't explicitly preclude the combining of Barrage
Weapons on a single Titan (it was later errata'd IIRC). However: The
combining of Eldar MslWing's on a single Titan worked so well, we
simply never stopped doing it. This 'old' House rule is thus one we
have _always_ used....

Here is the Idea as discussed with Peter:
(again: edited transcription of the IM conversation follows):

morach2: he likes the phantom Barrage missles idea we had
 
peyoterattle: Oh- Allowing a player to combine MslWing Wep Barrage
attacks into one Barrage?
_That's an _old_ idea!!_
...It really does make a two-Barrage wing flexible tho- and Worth
Taking as an option! ...two 4BP's barrages or one combined 8BP
barrage: I get really tired of seeing only two LasWing configurations
<sigh> This makes it kind of like an Eldar-ey GutBuster:
anti-personnel or anti-tank: Player's Choice!! "Feels Good", at least
to me!! ... Good "optional " rule at the very least!

ramospeter: Yes, were talking about that, I think of it as an eldar
only thing.... not "universal". It could well be a core rule soon enough!

peyoterattle: Makes sense I suppose: although I think certain Chaos
powers should get it too...Slaanesh mostly-

ramospeter: It could be a core rule in time, since its simple. 'Eldar
Only' makes it balanced since imperial weapons are too powerful combined.

peyoterattle: ...but if two and (_only_ two) Barrages could be
combined from one titan , it prevents a 32 BP barrage off a warlord
(tho- I don't think I'd have a problem personally if someone wanted to
"put all their egggs in one basket" on a Lucky strike <shrug >
peyoterattle: Like I said: I've never played Imperial: I defer to
your experience on this one P

ramospeter: remember that anything over 9BPs is STILL a 2+ hit, so its
wasted firepower.

peyoterattle: there you go-

morach2: Thomas: he says, we need to start writing this down

peyoterattle: I am transcribing our conversation as we type.....or do
you mean as far as "official NetEpic Rules Proposals" ? I've actually
been working on that, too! ....a long time I might add!!


ramospeter: Please do! Only: please put them in a format (like MSWord)
that can be easily edited to make Jar's life easier...As I have told
Brian, this version tries to be more inclusive with optional ideas:
they used to get lost to the void before because they weren't "core".
 Jar's introduction of an "optional" book solves this.
    
morach2: You and I Thomas seem to be acting like a new idea generator
or fresh meat to the older group

peyoterattle: Yah: We are a regular li'l 'Galapogas Island' "Fractal
Idea Generator" of NetEpic. Just one benefit of being off-line for
four years (OK: the _only_ benefit!!!)

peyoterattle: I have several ideas I wanna play-test out with Bryan
and our group, and then present to the Main Group in the next year:
mostly dealing with minor 'reiki' adjustments to what I perceive as
little idiosyncratic problems with Titans as they currently play:
......they just don't feel ..!._Anime_! enough to me :
(Have I mentioned several Times by now that I -really- like
"Neon Genesis Evangelion"...?
Or that I'm borderline obcessive-compulsive...?

ramospeter: _You're_ obessive compulsive....?!? hehe, you remind me
a lot of several enthusiastic people over the years....


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--- In netepic_at_yahoogroups.com, "Toma Diener" <peyoterattle_at_y...> wrote:
>
>
> Sorry: part of my Text got cut off: It's all good because I've
> decided to list each Variant under its own thread for ease of
> discussion. What is it with me and BandWidth lately...? (:>)
>
> The First idea is Brand New (at least to Us: I'm sure someone
> somewhere has been doing it this way, too...)
>
> We've only used it in two games, so it needs a _lot_ more
> Playtesting: we like it a great deal, however:
>
> What follows is an edited transcription of an IM chat (I edit faster
> than I type, so this methodology makes for quicker posting )
>
> <begin Transcription>
>
> >morach2: Peter says we should post our optional rules for the Warp
> hunter with our idea for moving vortexes, and how the rules could work
>
> >peyoterattle: OK: The inspiration comes from the Original
> 'Renegades'box 'Blast Templates': they have two different colored
> sides, red and purple. That observation/revelation + the way the
> Spinner templates work led to the following 'house rule'...
>
> >ramospeter: Remember: this version tries to include as many optional
> rules as possible, so they can make it in, just post them. This
> version is going for maximum ideas, albeit optional ones, but I dont
> want them getting lost like they used to.
>
> >morach2: as Thomas says..." I LOVE THIS GAME!!! "
>
> >peyoterattle: OK then:......The Idea is that the Warp Hole scatters
> normally as written (2d6+arrow die x2 times)
> BUT!
> --> It scatters once each turn for _two turns_!!
> It scatters normally on turn one using the purple sided "warp
> template". On turn two the template flips over to the 'Red' side and
> scatters normally a -Second Time-.
> On turn three it dissipates and is removed, just like a Spinner
> Template.
> This leads to a feeling of self-consistency in Eldar Weapon use
> that is aesthetically satisfying and easy to remember....
> ... OK' I'm saving a Transcript of this conversation for Archive
> purposes: I can cut&paste a 'rules option' to Post as soon as we are
> done here-
>
> >morach2: Cool
>
> >ramospeter: Thats a good idea thomas!
> < end Transcription>
>
>
> Yes Indeed, It Is! :P
> (private joke. I don't have a 'voice' option on my older version of
> YahooIM, and Peter and Bryan were giving me a hard time about it...)
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In netepic_at_yahoogroups.com, "Toma Diener" <peyoterattle_at_y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello All-
> >
> > After a discussion of our Game this last Saturday, Peter suggested
> > that Bryan and I post a few of the 'House Rule' weapons effects that
> > we have been using: some are old, some new, some borrowed (and after
> > Yar's comment about ViroCannon armed Titans: some are obviously
> 'Blue'...)
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