From my POV,
600 points is ok. They have 4 good weapons, holo fields plus the best
movement for any titan, including a 'hopping' charge movement that mostly
ignores terrain. 300 points each is a reasonable price, specially when you
look for two fast moving stormers to outflank your opponent. Other choices
in the eldar list have a worse movility+weapons+CAF+special/cost, just look
at the Scorpion! Plus the combination of fast movement, high CAF, unmodified
saving throw and good combination of weapons makes a pair of revenants far
better than a single Phantom.
I feel like 400 points is extremely underpriced and 500 is underpriced.
Compare a single revenant's stats abilities and cost to similar vehicles of
similar price or functionality (like, to mention some, Knight Baron 200,
Squat hearthlord 300, Ork Mega-Squiggoth 250 or Mekboy gargant 450,
Baneblade 225, Slanesh Questor and Subjugator 225, ...).
Perhaps it is easier to compare to Warhounds. IMHO Revenants are quite
better than warhounds. Except for their vulnerability to psychic attacks and
barrages, they outstand over warhounds in every aspect. Except for those
Quake cannons. And I still don't know why now warhounds can carry quake
cannons. A Quake cannon is not a Scout titan weapon, is a siege titan
weapon. They were never able to carry them and I don't remember any comment,
discussion or poll in the list about it. Maybe it's an error (or one of
those army list changes in v5 that occurred misteriously without anyone
noticing).
Albert
>From: "Stephane" <kotrin_at_...>
>Reply-To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
>To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: Revenants
>Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:51:23 -0000
>
>--- In netepic_at_yahoogroups.com, Peter Ramos <netepic@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I agree with this point of view.
> >
> > Having used these units quite a lot, I woud definitely say they are
> > somewhere between 400-500. Not 600.
> >
> > Why not place them at 450?
> >
> > Opinions?
> >
> > Peter
>
>I don't know for the Warhounds, but frankly, Revenants are quite
>formidable and worth every of their 600 points. I'm not bound by the
>initial price defined by GW for them, nor any hate for the faction
>they belong to (I play Eldar) but from the experience of my last
>battle, where I fielded a squadron. And I can say that at 600 points,
>I'll field Revenants in every battle from now on.
>
>Revenants are almost tougher than a Phantom, since they have similar
>saving throws and a far more favourable hit location template (it's
>very likely that a deviation misses the titan completely.) They have
>the same holo-field and Revenants are, in addition, hard to hit on
>charge orders. I can add that their base is smaller too.
>
>Regarding firepower, the Revenant pulse laser is inferior to a
>Pulsar, but the Revenant fields two of them, along with a missile
>launcher and a rapid-fire anti-infantry weapon. I think that a pair
>of Revenants packs far more firepower than a Phantom, which costs
>more than them if you just add a Pulsar to the hull (and you still
>have to purchase a second weapon and wing weapons.)
>
>Yet, it's true that Revenants, as any holofield-protected war engine,
>are subject to utter destruction on a lucky shot. I send my
>sincere sympathy to the poor Eldar player who lost his units on the
>first turn. Yet, if it's certainly an issue if you have bad luck,
>this reasoning holds true for all Eldar Titans and Knights. Hence all
>Eldar Titan and Knight costs should be decreased for the same
>inconsistency of their respective holofields.
>
>If you can lose a Revenant on turn one, the same can be said of any
>Phantom or Warlock titan - but with Revenants, you still have the
>second one up and running.
>
>I can't decide for the whole community but I know that I'll still
>count my Revenants at 600 points when I build an Eldar army. 600, no
>less.
>
>Sorry for the lenght of my arguments :)
>
>
>
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