[NetEpic ML] Re: Revision Issue: Titans

From: Warprat <warprat_at_...>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 03:43:45 -0800

HeHeHeHe!

That is a really funny descption of Squats. ;)

Lately, our group has just begun to use the air rules, and flyers are a
dominate force. We are limiting them, by making them a Special Card.
You can buy 350pts of flyers for each card used. That usually means a
Thunderbolt squadron, and a Thunderhawk. This is OK, but we haven't
found the best way to limit them, and not let them dominate the game so
much.

What have you guys decided?

Thanks,

Warprat ;)

nils.saugen_at_... wrote:
>
> Nope....
>
> Haven't had the time yet.
>
> Yes, +2 is a lot. But who would really be able to put down a jetfighter
> with handguns..... (And if I remember corectly one of the Eldar aspect
> warriors migth fire AA at a -1 penalty !?!)
>
> The sqats yes. In my experience the little boggers will survive just
> anything you put against them. They are Epics equivalent of cockroaches.
> Never breaking, never fleeing the battlefield..... With warmachines of
> imence power at a minimum cost.... I belive that if i where to stomp one
> berserker stand with my food, I'd only hurt myself :)
>
> We have a sort of gentlemans agreement, not to use flyers if the other side
> does not have them. I know that the orks once used a detachment of
> Fightabombaz agaisnt the squats. I dont think they made that much of an
> impact on the result of that particular game. When you use flyers as we do,
> they do not tend to dominate the games that much. However, we have not been
> using that many flyers in our games.
>
> Nils
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Warprat [SMTP:warprat_at_...]
> > Sent: 23. februar 2000 11:51
> > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: Revision Issue: Titans
> >
> > Have you tried Peters new proposed flyer rules?
> >
> > I think they are a GREAT improvement over the current NetEpic flyer
> > rules. But, I do miss some of the aspects of the old Games Workshop
> > flyer rules. Like, high and low elevation, and troops being able to
> > fire at flyers. A -2 penalty, seems like an awfull lot, but my
> > experience with flyers is very limited.
> >
> > How do Squats fare, not having any true flyers?
> >
> > Warprat ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > nils.saugen_at_... wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > No I don't think they need to be limithed further.
> > >
> > > The limited range of the missile already makes them quite
> > unmanouverable.
> > > And the fact that they may be shot down, makes it quite unsafe to go
> > > cruising around the tabletop for too long a time. The best tactic would
> > be
> > > to go straight ahead and deliver the goods as fast as possible.
> > >
> > > As I said yesterday our little gaming group has been working on our own
> > > flyer rules. We use the flyers pretty much like any other unit. We also
> > > allow all units with weapons of ranges equalt to or lesser than 75cm to
> > > shoot at flyers at a -2 penalty.
> > >
> > > I think that the AA guns are the only units with good enogh tracking and
> > > targeting systems to shoot down a small missile like the deathstrike.
> > And
> > > that even they have to do it at a -2 penalty. Otherwise I do belive that
> > I
> > > have delivered my last deathstrike.
> > >
> > > Nils
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Warprat [SMTP:warprat_at_...]
> > > > Sent: 23. februar 2000 10:50
> > > > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: Revision Issue: Titans
> > > >
> > > > Hi Nils!
> > > >
> > > > After thinking about it, I have to agree that I like your solution the
> > > > best. It is a good revision for the NetEpic rules, in my opinion.
> > > >
> > > > Do you think that Deathstrike Batteries need to be limited in some
> > > > manner?
> > > >
> > > > Also, should AA guns still take a -2 penalty to hit? What is your
> > > > opinion about letting infantry be able to target flyers?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Nils!
> > > >
> > > > Warprat ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > nils.saugen_at_... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I know, I checked the old rules this morning myself. I think we'll
> > stick
> > > > to the rules I described yesterday. (Treating the missile as a flyer)
> > > > Anyway, I prefer to take the barrage warhead.
> > > >
> > > > (snip)
> > > > We have always regarded the Deathstrike missile as a cruise missile
> > > > much like modern day tomahawks. So I've always regarded it as a small
> > > > flyer. We use our own rules for flyers (They are placed on the
> > tabletop
> > > > as any other units and has some manuverability restrictions. They must
> > > > move between half and full movement, making no more than two turns
> > each
> > > > round with at least 10 cm between the turns and with a maximum turn of
> > > > 90 degrees (no singel turn above 45 degrees)) These are the rules by
> > > > wich the deatstrikes move.
> > > >
> > > > So if I'm able to backstab a titan, using the above manuverability
> > > > rules with the limited movement of the deathstrike missiles. I would
> > > > very well say that my opponent deserved a warpmissile in the back.
> > > > Furthermore it does not say in the rules for the deathstrike missile
> > > > that the launch vehicle has to have LOS to the target. It says so on
> > > > the description for the Titan, but then again that missile is of a
> > > > different nature (no movementrestrictions for instance) I regard these
> > > > missiles as different weapons but with the same warhead.
> > > > (snip)
> > > >
> > > >
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