Hi Nils!
The reason I would like to keep the armies seperated, is because each
one plays differently, and has it's own unique flavor. The Human army
is divided into three branches, kind of like our real world forces, and
I like that.
It's also more fair to the "Alien" armies. If you combined all the
Imperial stuff, they would be much harder to beat. Termanators in
Imperators, Imperial Guard Artillery backing up Space Marines. What a
nightmare for the opposing side.
As for the Eldar armies, they are already divided, if you read the small
print. I'd just like the Eldar Knights to have thier own section, to
make it more obvious, and give them thier due.
As for the price changes, they are just gut feelings based on
experience, and unit comparisons. Going over the Squat stuff, alone,
took me more than two hours.
Warprat ;)
nils.saugen_at_... wrote:
>
> Wow,
>
> Lot of work here....
>
> I agree with most of what you say, except keeping SM/IG/TG and Eldar/Eldar
> knights as separate armies.
>
> Are the suggested changes in the prices based on calculations or or just an
> opinion???
>
> Nils
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Warprat [SMTP:warprat_at_...]
> > Sent: 27. mars 2000 12:56
> > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Re: More stuff to argue..er.. I mean discuss
> > about
> >
> > Hi Peter!
> >
> > Where do we stand on the Holofield issue? Perhaps another vote? Should
> > we use the egroup poll feature? Frankly, I'm confused again. Maybe
> > Kelvin could lend a hand?
> >
> > I agree, with you, on the Banelord issue. I don't have any experience
> > with the Slann Titans. So, unless something sounds outragous, no
> > comment, there.
> >
> > I would like to Keep the Imperial Guard, Tech Guard and Marines as
> > Seperate Armies. I would like to seperate the Eldar, and Eldar Knight
> > armies.
> >
> > I suggest, that when we get to the Army Lists, that we do one army at a
> > time.
> >
> >
> > My wish list for changes:
> >
> > Space Marine:
> > A) Space Wolf Terminator Great Co., increase cost 50pts.
> > B) Long Fangs, decrease cost 25pts.
> > C) Wolf Priest, increase cost 50pts.
> > D) Drop Pods, modify CAF of open pods, and eliminate them from break
> > point.
> > E) Dreadnought, allow to move as infantry, except in buildings.
> > F) Robots, allow to Charge through woods, move into buildings if troop
> > sized.
> >
> >
> > Eldar:
> > A) Eldar Heavy Weapon Guardians, make them come in 6, one attack,
> > 350pts.
> > B) Wave Serpents, make them a Special Card, or increase cost to 300pts.
> > Allow to move over water.
> > C) Doomweaver, scatter 1d6 instead of 2d6.
> > D) Bonesinger, allow healing on infantry too.
> > E) Exarch, make this a normal card, decrease cost to 300pts.
> > F) Dreadnoughts, allow to move as infantry, except in buildings.
> > G) War Walker, allow to Advance through difficult terrain.
> > H) Unicorn, allow to move over rivers.
> >
> >
> > Squats:
> > A) Vote on new Squat units.
> > B) Hellfury, increase troop carry to 6, Squat infantry comes in 6's.
> > Increase Bolters to 8, decrease range to 15cm, hit 6+. Decrease cost to
> > 100pts.
> > C) Ironshield, increase Bolters to 8, decrease range to 15cm, hit 6+.
> > D) Ironhammer, increase cost to 300pts, better than Landraiders.
> > Increase Bolters to 4, decrease range to 15cm, hit 6+.
> > E) Retributor, increase cost to 350pts, increase missile BP to 2,
> > increase Bolters to 8, decrease range to 15cm, hit 6+.
> > F) Hearthlord, decrease cost to 200pts, decrease move to 10cm, increase
> > Bolters to 12, decrease range to 15cm, hit 6+.
> > G) Grudgekeeper, increase cost to 450pts,
> > H) Behemoth, reduce move to 10cm, increase Bolters to 20, decrease range
> > to 15cm, hit 6+.
> >
> >
> > Imperial Guard:
> > A) Capitol Imperialis, reduce cost to 500pts, increase Bolters to 16,
> > decrease range to 15cm, hit 6+.
> > B) Mole, decrease Bolter range to 15cm.
> > C) Hellbore, decrease Bolter range to 15cm.
> > D) Hellbore Transport, decrease Bolter range to 15cm.
> > E) Deathstrike Battery, make this a Special Card. Use ,Nil's Group,
> > rules for cruise missile movement.
> > F) Eliminate Armageddon, Golgotha, Mars as Special Cards. These belong
> > to the Tech Guard.
> > G) Rough Rider, allow to Charge through woods.
> > H) Sentinel, allow to Advance through difficult terrain.
> >
> >
> > Tech Guard:
> > No changes.
> >
> >
> > Chaos:
> > A) Dreadnought, allow to move as infantry, except in buildings.
> > B) Chaos Android, allow to move as infantry.
> > C) Minor Daemons, allow to move as infantry, including in buildings.
> > Cannot load in normal vehicles.
> > D) Greater Daemons, allow to move as infantry, but not in buildings.
> > Cannot load in normal vehicles.
> > E) Juggernauts, allow to Charge through woods.
> > F) Beast Riders, allow to Charge through woods.
> > G) Trolls/Minotaur, allow to move as infantry, including in buildings.
> > Cannot load in normal vehicles.
> > H) Thunderhawk, this unit is too powerfull for Chaos.
> > J) Chaos Veterans, get rid of them. Chaos does not deserve to have
> > EVERYTHING.
> > K) Chaos Recruits, get rid of them.
> > L) Titans, should be a Special Card.
> > M) Chaos Marine Legion, should be a Special Card.
> > N) Chaos Magus, increase cost to 150pts.
> > O) Primarchs, increase cost to 350pts.
> >
> > Orks:
> > A) Dreadnoght, allow to move as infantry, except in buildings.
> > B) Boarboyz, allow to Charge through woods.
> > C) Mekboy Geargant, something BAD should happen if the shield roll is
> > failed.
> > D) Squig Katapult, Buzzer Squigs in a feeding frenzy should kill Orks,
> > as well as everything else.
> > E) Squiggoths, should move as tracked vehicles.
> >
> >
> > Tyranids:
> > Don't know enough to comment.
> >
> >
> > Slaan:
> > Don't know enough to comment.
> >
> >
> >
> > What does everyone else think?
> >
> > Warprat ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter Ramos wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > As the Holofield issue slowly comes to a close I'll post some broad
> > groups
> > > to get people thinking on other things to discuss/change.
> > >
> > > The easiest way to do this is to think about all those annoying cheesy
> > > things thathave bothered you over the use and comment on those. These
> > are
> > > some of those things I cant stand.
> > >
> > > Ork titans
> > > Dont have much to say here I can live with most of the stuff as is.
> > >
> > > Chaos titans
> > > My only gripe is the missile rack on the banelord. It takes two weapon
> > hard
> > > points and isn't that great. I'd like to make it more powerful and
> > > expensive, make those weapon points worth something.
> > >
> > > Tyranid titans
> > > Not much either, any gripes here?
> > >
> > > Slann titans
> > > These need to be looked over, since I think they may be priced to high,
> > > opinions?
> > >
> > > We can also open up the discussion on army lists (oh goodie!). These are
> > my
> > > picks for annoying things:
> > > 1.Deathstrike missiles
> > > 2.Wave Serpent
> > > 3.Doomweaver
> > > 4.Eldar psyker powers
> > > 5.Some greater demon powers, like Slanneesh, real suck!
> > >
> > > Also another question is that if we should keep the tech guard army as a
> > > separate list of just merge it with IG?
> > >
> > > Start shooting Tex!
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
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