If the armor save should be modified by CAF, it would be the
average CAF of all attackers, not the highest, right?
Rune
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Ramos [mailto:pramos2_at_...]
Sent: 2000-04-17 02:53
To: netepic_at_egroups.com
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] A little math on titan CC
Hi!
I proposed using double CAF with the armor saving throw
modification by CAF.
I agree anything less would permit swarming way too much.
As for restricting the amount of units to engage it, it is
reasonable that
infantry need to actually to engage the leg thus limiting it
to about 7
stands. This means that IG swarms would never work (not a
bad thing) and
only truly expensive high CAF infantry would be feasible to
do.
Knight units or higher may engage the actual base since
their reach is
greater than be able to get many into close combat with
titans.
The only addition to whats been said is to place an infantry
cap of 7
stands.
Opinions?
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike <slannesh_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] A little math on titan CC
> --- In netepic_at_egroups.com, "Mike " <slannesh_at_h...>
wrote:
> Argh. Silly thing deleted all my text last time.
>
> Looking at the proposed rules I think that Titans are
still getting
> the short end of the stick when being swarmed.
>
> Looking at all the examples given the titan is getting
almost a
> guarenteed death in all of the examples except the
doubling CAF and
> saving throw by the 10 Techguard stands.
>
> In each of these examples the only detachment that even
comes close
> to
> costing the same as the titan are the Exarchs...
>
> I know that not all titans are designed to be CC
monsters... but
> honestly, they should be. All of the fluff i've read talks
about how
> Titans are the lords of the battlefield. why the heck
would anyone
> even THINK about taking a titan knowing that it's going to
die the
> first decent sized detachment that swarms it? I've always
thought
> that
> infantry taking down titans in CC was just silly... if
they're so
> vulnerable to infantry swarms why don't they have better
defence?
>
> I know a lot of people are going to disagree but what I
propose is
> this:
> Double all titans CAF this includes any CC weapons as
well.
> Furthermore, for less than Knight class models, don't
allow more to
> attack the titan in CC than you can touch to it's feet, on
a plastic
> warlord I belive this is 7 infantry stands. Knight or
larger can
> attack with as many models as can touch the base of the
titan.
>
> This makes titans really tough in CC True.. but they're
all on the
> same level with each other. Titans can always be taken
down by
> equivalent titans...
>
> In addition they are no tougher than they've always been
to weapons
> fire. The end result is, if you want to kill a titan,
assault it with
> some of those expensive knights, another titan or just
shoot it till
> it falls down from all the extra weight in lead.
>
> Flame away!
> Mike
>
>
>
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