Re: [NetEpic ML] IG/TG/SoB and all things Imperial

From: Warprat <warprat_at_...>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 01:15:29 -0700

Hi Joshua!

Well, everything I posted was based on Titan Legions, Codex Titanicus.
pages 11-16. As well as an issue of White Dwarf, when the Knights were
first described.

While I understand your desire to simplify the IG and TG, I can't agree.
I believe that Titan Legions supports me.

If you have a copy, please read it. I sure don't understand how you can
support your argrument, based on what is written in those pages.

What does everyone else think?


Warprat ;)





Joshua W Raup wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> -->Greetings warprat!
>
> We've been down this road before. Please do not combine the Tech Guard
> and the Imperial Guard!
>
> -->I don't see a good reason not too really. I have yet to see a fully
> fleshed rationale for such a division, based on something other than
> personal preference. Besides, you can still field a "TG" army, even if
> we combined the two lists. Not like things would be that different
> really.
>
> Each belongs to a different branch of the Imperial Armed Forces.
> Although they may resemble each other, and share some of the same units,
> they support two completely different organizations. Mars and Earth.
>
> -->Yes and no. Yes they are technically sperate organizations, with
> slightly differing purposes. That said, the AM just doesn't mount large
> scale offensive operations on its own. It's just not in their ethos (for
> lack of a better term). They are primarily defensive as an organization,
> while managing to support Imperial forces (SM and IG), across the galaxy.
> In what passes for "fluff reality," they aren't the crusading type. Not
> since the Great Crusade and Heresy era.
>
> The Mars/Earth alliance was forged by the Emperor, after years of
> seperation. The forces of Mars and Earth are still seperated. Our
> force lists should reqognise this difference as well. Mars had the
> technology, but earth had the people. If you look at the force lists
> for these two armies, you'll see the difference.
>
> --->I again partially agree here. Most of the AM units should be limited
> to support and special cards, reflecting their "actual" use in the
> Imperium. This accurately reflects the role they have played, and do
> play in the current game fluff. Now, I could see some special scenarios,
> involving a strictly TG force, but not as a regular army list. I just
> don't see a valid justification for it.
>
> Mars controlls the Forge Worlds. The Tech Guard is thier own private
> army. The Knight Worlds are simply raw supply worlds for Mars. The
> Knight families owe alliegence to Mars. Mars owes alligence to the
> Emperor.
>
> -->I'm not so sure about the Knights here. As I recall, they are out on
> the fringes, outside of the normal Imperial, and AM hierarchy. It's why
> they have a structure all their own (Paladins, Errants, Castellans, etc).
> And why they do things pretty much as they see fit, even if it goes
> against Imperial decrees.
>
> Earth and Mars both support the Emperor and humanity, but both have a
> different way of doing things. Neither would allow it's worlds, and
> forces, to be ruled by the other.
>
> -->Well, again, yes and no. The AM has no desire to rule the galaxy,
> thus has no real need to conquor worlds. They get their cut for
> supporting the IG and SM campaigns. The IG and SMs are the military arm
> of the Imperium, and are the ones who go out and claim new worlds, or
> reclaim those lost to the utland barabarians. The AM prefer to search
> for lost technologies, develop new ones, and maintain their forge worlds.
> If they ned more resources, they get the IG or SM to go get the required
> world for them. In return, the AM provide materials, and support units
> to those armies. they just don't go out and do it themselves.
>
> Warprat ;)
>
> Josh R
> Minister for General Mayhem
> "Don't let the bastards grind you down." Gen. Joseph Stilwell
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