Hi Peter!
The LOS limitations are well known to me. But, I would have to disagree
that using them en masse is a waste of points.
Actually, what I'm going to suggest to my group, is to try Shokks out 3
ways.
1) How we have been playing, without stopping any fire. (Plenty of
experience with this.)
2) The "Correct" Net Epic way.
3) The "House Rule" Close Combat method.
To be fair to everyone, my opponents can try out the more powerfull Net
Epic version. When it's my turn to play Orks, I can try out the "House
Rule." Since, it is deemed by most, to be inferior.
We can then compare and discuss the merits of all three systems.
Warprat ;)
Peter Ramos wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I have played them in the correct fashion for years. Hardly a wonder weapon.
> They always scatter and if they scatter beyond a certain distance they do
> nothing, and now with our pinning rules only infantry are effected not
> vehicles or higher. The range is great and LOS is good too, but y experience
> is that they are far to unreliable and using them en masse is a waste of
> points.
>
> Try out a battle with them this way, you'll find that the usual obstructions
> of the battlefield will limit them quite much.
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warprat [mailto:warprat_at_...]
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 1:09 AM
> To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] The Advance Issue
>
> Hi Darius!
>
> You know Darius, for the last ten years I've been using Shokks with out
> using the ability to stop a unit from firing.
>
> Now, you might think that because of this, I would never use this unit
> at all. I mean, I NEVER used them for the MAIN purpose of disrupting
> the enemy's fire, never.
>
> And niether did anyone else I played with. If I would have suggested
> such a thing, they would have LAUGHED at me! Then told me to stop being
> greedy, and get real.
>
> Did this unit ever find it's way into my Group's armies? Almost always!
>
> The ability to fire line of sight, and destroy any unit, make Shokks
> awsome! And don't forget thier ability to empty buildings, etc...
>
> All for only a hundred points. Quite a deal!
>
> A STEAL, if you let them prevent units from firing, an absolute STEAL!
>
> Warprat ;)
>
> dardman wrote:
> >
> > Shokk attack guns are one of the coolest units the orks have. They have to
> > be fired on FF. Their main purpose is to disrupt the enemy. If you can
> stop
> > the enemy from firing you have achieved your goal with these units. I
> always
> > take at least one squad and 2 squads in bigger games backed by a Runthedz.
> > The last time I used them I double hit (auto destroy) twice in 3 turns, I
> > killed 3 stands of my own boyz, 1 enemy stand and disrupted the enemy from
> > firing many times. Pretty good for 100 pts. I opt to fire them at FF
> targets
> > (usually infantry hvy units), then I go for armor and finally CC (I try to
> > fire behind my troops if possible). I think this unit is fine the way it
> is.
> > If you play them in the Adv phase or CC phase they won't be as effective.
> > You are thinking of them as CC enhancer for assaulting troops, but they
> are
> > more of a disruptor than anything. Take the enmey's ability to fire and
> you
> > improve your chances to move on, gain objectives, take longer to break and
> > win the game. You can try firing them in the CC or Adv phase but it won't
> > make them any better.
> > Darius
> >
>
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