Yes, we have a game sceduled for next week. I'd like you to tag along, as
the results of our testing will influence your army aswell. I'd like to test
the neuro/mantis rules on this occation, then we could test the CAF bit
later and finally test both parameters in one game. Once we've done this I
think we should be able to agree on the right cource of action with regards
to what, if any, needs changing.
Nils
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karlsen Rune [SMTP:rune.karlsen_at_...]
> Sent: 10. oktober 2000 10:56
> To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann Necron
>
> Yes, and that's why i suggest that you and Eivind play.
> You can field your Pure Necron army. That way, the Necrons
> can be tested without the Slann influence.
>
> Rune
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nils.saugen_at_... [mailto:nils.saugen@...]
> Sent: 10. oktober 2000 10:49
> To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann Necron
>
>
> Hmmm,
>
> There is only one way to settle this lads, and that's by playtesting.....
> Arguing pros and cons won't get us any further at this point. I think it
> is
> important that we all get together for a couple of games where we test the
> suggestions made by Eivind. I'm at this point open to both lines of
> argument, and I'd like to have some test results before making up my mind.
>
>
> Nils
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karlsen Rune [SMTP:rune.karlsen_at_...]
> > Sent: 10. oktober 2000 10:40
> > To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann Necron
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: eivind borgeteien [mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_...]
> > Sent: 10. oktober 2000 10:49
> > To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann Necron
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karlsen Rune [ mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...
> > <mailto:rune.karlsen_at_...> ]
> > Sent: 10. oktober 2000 10:30
> > To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann Necron
> >
> >
> > Actually, Nils did rather well with 2:1 with his roughriders. He just
> > didnt
> > get his beastmen in on round
> > 2..
> > If you lower the Necron CAF, you defeat the purpose of having few, but
> > good
> > units. Necrons Assaults are like Terminators, and are supposed to be
> tough
> >
> > to take out. You HAVE to swarm them in CC. That's why you need to buy
> lots
> >
> > of cheap infantry.
> >
> > ---> No problem with cheap infantry, but they never get there. Necrons
> are
> > now far better than Terminators.
> >
> >
> > Assault Necrons have no weaponry, and the save isnt fixed anymore.
> >
> >
> > The problem is, you can't set the stats and cost of a unit based on what
>
> > other units might be able to do.
> > The disruptor missiles aren't that powerful! Tell you what : Replace
> them
> > with some warp missiles which
> > kill instead of stop. Would that make you happier? :) It would me, i
> > assure
> > you :)
> >
> > ---> To me, a unit might as well be dead if you cant move it!
> >
> > Well, a dead unit counts towards the BP/VP, a stopped one does not.
> > Besides, it isnt
> >
> > necessarily stopped, and not forever...
> >
> > Rune
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: eivind borgeteien [ mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_...
> > <mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_...> ]
> > Sent: 10. oktober 2000 10:35
> > To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann Necron
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd say we take away the warp jump, lower the CAF by 2, make the regen
> > roll
> > 5+ & increase the pointcost to get rid of them once and for all :))))
> LOL
> >
> > No, seriously, I think they can keep the warpjump and the pointcost, but
> > the
> >
> > CAF must go down. To beat the necrons in CC you have to outnumber them 3
> > to
> > 1, and with the disruptor missiles you seldom get all those forces into
> > CC.
> >
> > Eivind
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nils.saugen_at_... [ mailto:nils.saugen@...
> > <mailto:nils.saugen_at_...>
> > < mailto:nils.saugen_at_... <mailto:nils.saugen@...> > ]
> > Sent: 10. oktober 2000 08:52
> > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann Necron
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I agree with Rune, the warp jump of the Necron Assault dosen't make them
> > too
> >
> >
> > powerfull, remember this unit breaks very easily!!!! (even with the 4+
> > regen
> >
> >
> > roll) 900 points would make fore som cheap victory points for the
> > opponents!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I guess that if we find that change is needed I'm more in line with
> > Eivinds
> > suggestion of lovering the CAF by 2. Or making the regen roll 5+ again.
> >
> > Nils
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karlsen Rune [SMTP:rune.karlsen_at_...]
> > > Sent: 10. oktober 2000 08:36
> > > To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
> > > Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann Necron
> > >
> > > The Necron Assault troops have always had warp jump. Warning : any
> point
> >
> > > increases now, and the
> > > Slann army would be unplayable. A 300 point incrase on the Assaults in
> > my
> > > last battle against IG
> > > would have meant that i wouldn't have been able to bring the Nemesis
> > Tanks
> >
> >
> > > OR the Vanguards. That
> > > would have been fatal, and i doubt it very much if the Slann would
> have
> > > lasted the first round.
> > >
> > > And please, isnt there any way to go over the rules and remove ALL
> > typo's
> > > once and for all? God knows
> > > there've been enough revisions, and some errors/typo's have lingered
> > > forever
> > > (like the titan repair roll).
> > > Now the Gravguard minimissiles hit on a 5+, not a 4+? Another typo. I
> > > don't
> > > mean to criticize, i know
> > > nobody is getting paid for their work, but i cant be too hard to
> > > errorcheck
> > > a document before releasing it?
> > >
> > > Rune
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: hellreich [ mailto:hellreich_at_...
> > <mailto:hellreich_at_...>
> > < mailto:hellreich_at_... <mailto:hellreich@...> > ]
> > > Sent: 10. oktober 2000 03:01
> > > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Slann Necron
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter I need to ask why and when were the Necron Assult given the warp
>
> > > jump?
> > > I think this is to much power for them since they do recive a 4+ regen
>
> > > roll
> > > when not killed in colse combat, this should help them reach the enemy
>
> > > just
> > > fine. By given them the warp jump a point increase is needed. I'd
> given
> > > the
> > > Exodus Warp walkers to keep the Slann and Exodus in tune with each
> other
> >
> > > the
> > > better race making it into mech and titan jumping abllity while the
> > lower
> > > race only mastering man jumps. If we are going to give the Necron this
>
> > > then
> > > they should be limited like the Exodus and not allowed to jump past
> > 40cm.
> > > Now for point cost lets just look at the two units Warp Walkers 6
> models
> >
> > > +4
> > > CAF and a 25cm weapon for 250pts thats 41.6 pts a model with only a 6+
>
> > > save
> > > not fixed, only jump 40cm, can only be bought as support card no
> > company.
> > > Necron assult 5 models +5 CAF no range weapon 200pts 40pts a model
> with
> > a
> > > 6+
> > > save can self repair on 4+ except in close combat, can warp jump
> > unlimited
> >
> >
> > > depending on rolls, but will make a 60cm jump with little or no harm.
> to
> >
> > > me
> > > the necron unit comes out to be 300pts and the company come in at 900
> > pts.
> >
> >
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