Ahh..We don't use snapfire rules. It was decided by Nils and
Eivind in "ancient times" that this would slow the game down.
Me? Im all for it, but these guys are my equals at stubbornness,
if not worse (Hi Eivind! :).
I think it's nice that you play the way you do, but you have to
understand that not all of us are old Titan Legion or whatnot
players. I was introduced to Epic only a few years ago, and had
previously mostly played RPG's. I don't really know the fluff
or history, and haven't really seen alot of it lying around.
Besides, im a grown man, i dont really see myself saying something
like "For the glory of the Slann" or "For the balance" or something
while making a move. If i say something, it'll be more like "Eat that,
you son of a motherless goat!" or "Shove that down your throat"! ;)
We have lots of fun playing, and as far as i can remember, noone
has actually got mad....
-----Original Message-----
From: warprat [mailto:warprat_at_...]
Sent: 12. oktober 2000 07:25
To: netepic_at_egroups.com
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
Hi Rune!
No need to be sorry. You simply have a different opinion, and GREAT
that you do! It makes for better ideas and discussion.
Sure.... the Bloodletters DO regen in the End Phase, but the shooting
happens during the Bloodletter's movement.
It works like this:
1) Chaos player starts to move the first Bloodletter of a detachment.
2) Marine player Snap fires at maximum range.
3) Bloodletter is killed, and gets placed on it's side, for possible
regeneration at the END of the turn.
4) Future moves by that detachment MUST maintain coherancy to the fallen
unit.
The Necron Assaults have a 40cm jump range, and they can not be Snap
fired at. They make it EVERY time!
As for the Scarabs...
I'll ask you the same question I asked Hellreich.
The Scarab "Fluff" says that Necrons are USUALLY accompanied by Scarabs.
When you take Necrons, do Scarabs usually accompany them?
To me, not usually taking them, would SPOIL the unique flavor of the
army. Kind of like saying, "I'm taking Terminators, without the
Landraiders."
You give up the flavor of the game, for a more effective way to make a
POWER army.
When you do that, you lose SO MUCH of the essence. So much of the fun!
Space Marine is not about simply making a POWER army and destoying your
opponents, as satisfying as that may be.
It's about playing a science fiction game, and letting yourself
experience that Universe, experience the fun.
When I take the Orcs, I try to think like the Orcs. When my units get
blown up, by misfires and such, I try to laugh at their misfortune.
"Those guud fur nuthin Gitz!" I throw Orks away, like yesterdays news.
When I play Eldar, I remember their elegance and grace. I'm a little
bit saddend to see each stand die... the end of a proud race.
When I play Imperials, I remember the Emperor. If I'm ready to make a
"make or break move", perhaps something desperate. I'll invoke the
Emperors name, and say "For the Emperor", just before I make that move.
I try to get in the "Spirit" of the game. For me, it's a lot of the
fun. No matter if I win or lose, I had a great time doing it. And in
the company of friends, who I admire and respect.
Games Workshop tried to make the armies unique by making the Company,
Support and Special cards. Some items are mandatory, to retain the
army's flavor.
An item that is USUALLY used, seems to be one of those, to me.
Warprat ;)
Karlsen Rune wrote:
>
> Doesnt the bloodletters regen in the end phase as well? If so, then
> the cohesion rule is no problem. Necron Assaults are also useless
> if you cant get them into CC, they have no ranged weaponry.
>
> Why make a unit mandatory? I cant see the reason for this, sorry..
>
> Rune
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: warprat [mailto:warprat_at_...]
> Sent: 11. oktober 2000 01:44
> To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
>
> Hi Hellreich!
>
> Your point about the Bloodletters is, of course, true. But also
> consider that Chaos does not have good long range firepower.
> Bloodletters must make a slow appoach. A stand of them, knocked down to
> regenerate, will stop the whole detachment, due to unit cohesion.
>
> The Necrons, if they retain the jump ability, avoid this problem neatly.
> First Fire, and Snap fire is not allowed against them.
>
> Bloodletters are useless, if they don't get into Close Combat. Almost
> any Marine force can Snap fire against them, limit thier movement, then
> destroy them at range. Also, in order to take the Bloodletters, you
> would also have to purchase a Greater Deamon of Korne. You can't JUST
> buy the Bloodletters like you can the Necrons.
>
> What do you think about the Scarabs? The fluff says they USUALLY
> accompany a Necron force. Do you purchase these for your Necrons
> usually? If not, then I suggest we change the Fluff, or make them
> mandatory.
>
> Warprat ;)
>
> hellreich wrote:
> >
> > Necron Infantry should not be able to warp jump, they did not have this
> > before and some how it has snuck in. They should be slow moving troops,
> that
> > have to spend points on transports to move fast this is were the messup
> is.
> > As for your math it is a good point be a febble one at that, try this
one
> > and tell me who wins 600 pts of Bloodletters to 600 pts of SM forces.
> these
> > guys are about the same as Necron but they get to regen in CC.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: warprat <warprat_at_...>
> > To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
> >
> > > Hi Rune!
> > >
> > > The result is very bad, for the Imperials. Sorry!
> > >
> > >
> > > Warprat ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > Karlsen Rune wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is the cost unbalanced? If you take 600 points of CC SM forces and
> > > > pitch them against the Necrons, what is the result?
> > > >
> > > > Rune
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: warprat [mailto:warprat_at_...]
> > > > Sent: 10. oktober 2000 11:55
> > > > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Nils!
> > > >
> > > > Are you sure about the regeneration? I was thinking the same thing
as
> > > > you, BUT I couldn't find it in the rules. Anyway, very few Necrons
> were
> > > > killed by CC.
> > > >
> > > > Even if -1 surprise mod is not used, and the Necrons killed in CC do
> not
> > > > regenerate, the end result is unballanced.
> > > >
> > > > Warprat ;)
> > > >
> > > > nils.saugen_at_... wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Two points, first Necrons killed in CC doesn't regenerate,
secondly
> > > > > Hellreich/Darius mentioned thet the -1 to CAF modifyer for units
> > charged
> > > > by
> > > > > mechs popping out of the warp, was due to the size of the mech! So
> we
> > have
> > > > > do not apply that penalty to units charget by warping Necron
Assault
> > > > > warriors.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nils
> > > > >
> > > >
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