Hi Rune!
If you get your hands on the 2nd Edition rules, put out Games Workshop,
or a White Dwarf or two, it would help to "understand" the Fluff a bit
better. The Battles book was also good. You can find it on e-Bay.
I actually only started playing, shortly after 2nd Edition came out.
I didn't own any mini's, or rules, untill a year ago. My first wife
didn't like me gaming so much, but my 2nd wife is VERY understanding.
I've got a 17 year old daughter who's pretty good at playing wargames,
and Magic Cards. Kind of a father/daughter thing. I'd take her as a
Co-General any day. She's very smart, and very sneaky! I like to think
she learned it from me. Can you tell I'm a proud father?
What are you talking about, GROWN MAN? Are you too old to have fun?
Hey, I'm 39. Gosh, I'll be 40 in 3 days. Time sure flys, when your
having fun.
When I turned 19, I gave my N-Scale train set to a younger boy, because
I thought I was too old for it. Boy, would I LOVE to have that train
set now! ;)
You know what they say, "Men will be boys!"
Best Wishes, Rune!
Warprat ;)
Karlsen Rune wrote:
>
> Ahh..We don't use snapfire rules. It was decided by Nils and
> Eivind in "ancient times" that this would slow the game down.
> Me? Im all for it, but these guys are my equals at stubbornness,
> if not worse (Hi Eivind! :).
>
> I think it's nice that you play the way you do, but you have to
> understand that not all of us are old Titan Legion or whatnot
> players. I was introduced to Epic only a few years ago, and had
> previously mostly played RPG's. I don't really know the fluff
> or history, and haven't really seen alot of it lying around.
> Besides, im a grown man, i dont really see myself saying something
> like "For the glory of the Slann" or "For the balance" or something
> while making a move. If i say something, it'll be more like "Eat that,
> you son of a motherless goat!" or "Shove that down your throat"! ;)
> We have lots of fun playing, and as far as i can remember, noone
> has actually got mad....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: warprat [mailto:warprat_at_...]
> Sent: 12. oktober 2000 07:25
> To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
>
> Hi Rune!
>
> No need to be sorry. You simply have a different opinion, and GREAT
> that you do! It makes for better ideas and discussion.
>
> Sure.... the Bloodletters DO regen in the End Phase, but the shooting
> happens during the Bloodletter's movement.
>
> It works like this:
>
> 1) Chaos player starts to move the first Bloodletter of a detachment.
>
> 2) Marine player Snap fires at maximum range.
>
> 3) Bloodletter is killed, and gets placed on it's side, for possible
> regeneration at the END of the turn.
>
> 4) Future moves by that detachment MUST maintain coherancy to the fallen
> unit.
>
> The Necron Assaults have a 40cm jump range, and they can not be Snap
> fired at. They make it EVERY time!
>
> As for the Scarabs...
>
> I'll ask you the same question I asked Hellreich.
>
> The Scarab "Fluff" says that Necrons are USUALLY accompanied by Scarabs.
>
> When you take Necrons, do Scarabs usually accompany them?
>
> To me, not usually taking them, would SPOIL the unique flavor of the
> army. Kind of like saying, "I'm taking Terminators, without the
> Landraiders."
>
> You give up the flavor of the game, for a more effective way to make a
> POWER army.
>
> When you do that, you lose SO MUCH of the essence. So much of the fun!
> Space Marine is not about simply making a POWER army and destoying your
> opponents, as satisfying as that may be.
>
> It's about playing a science fiction game, and letting yourself
> experience that Universe, experience the fun.
>
> When I take the Orcs, I try to think like the Orcs. When my units get
> blown up, by misfires and such, I try to laugh at their misfortune.
> "Those guud fur nuthin Gitz!" I throw Orks away, like yesterdays news.
>
> When I play Eldar, I remember their elegance and grace. I'm a little
> bit saddend to see each stand die... the end of a proud race.
>
> When I play Imperials, I remember the Emperor. If I'm ready to make a
> "make or break move", perhaps something desperate. I'll invoke the
> Emperors name, and say "For the Emperor", just before I make that move.
>
> I try to get in the "Spirit" of the game. For me, it's a lot of the
> fun. No matter if I win or lose, I had a great time doing it. And in
> the company of friends, who I admire and respect.
>
> Games Workshop tried to make the armies unique by making the Company,
> Support and Special cards. Some items are mandatory, to retain the
> army's flavor.
>
> An item that is USUALLY used, seems to be one of those, to me.
>
> Warprat ;)
>
> Karlsen Rune wrote:
> >
> > Doesnt the bloodletters regen in the end phase as well? If so, then
> > the cohesion rule is no problem. Necron Assaults are also useless
> > if you cant get them into CC, they have no ranged weaponry.
> >
> > Why make a unit mandatory? I cant see the reason for this, sorry..
> >
> > Rune
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: warprat [mailto:warprat_at_...]
> > Sent: 11. oktober 2000 01:44
> > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
> >
> > Hi Hellreich!
> >
> > Your point about the Bloodletters is, of course, true. But also
> > consider that Chaos does not have good long range firepower.
> > Bloodletters must make a slow appoach. A stand of them, knocked down to
> > regenerate, will stop the whole detachment, due to unit cohesion.
> >
> > The Necrons, if they retain the jump ability, avoid this problem neatly.
> > First Fire, and Snap fire is not allowed against them.
> >
> > Bloodletters are useless, if they don't get into Close Combat. Almost
> > any Marine force can Snap fire against them, limit thier movement, then
> > destroy them at range. Also, in order to take the Bloodletters, you
> > would also have to purchase a Greater Deamon of Korne. You can't JUST
> > buy the Bloodletters like you can the Necrons.
> >
> > What do you think about the Scarabs? The fluff says they USUALLY
> > accompany a Necron force. Do you purchase these for your Necrons
> > usually? If not, then I suggest we change the Fluff, or make them
> > mandatory.
> >
> > Warprat ;)
> >
> > hellreich wrote:
> > >
> > > Necron Infantry should not be able to warp jump, they did not have this
> > > before and some how it has snuck in. They should be slow moving troops,
> > that
> > > have to spend points on transports to move fast this is were the messup
> > is.
> > > As for your math it is a good point be a febble one at that, try this
> one
> > > and tell me who wins 600 pts of Bloodletters to 600 pts of SM forces.
> > these
> > > guys are about the same as Necron but they get to regen in CC.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: warprat <warprat_at_...>
> > > To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
> > >
> > > > Hi Rune!
> > > >
> > > > The result is very bad, for the Imperials. Sorry!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Warprat ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Karlsen Rune wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the cost unbalanced? If you take 600 points of CC SM forces and
> > > > > pitch them against the Necrons, what is the result?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rune
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: warprat [mailto:warprat_at_...]
> > > > > Sent: 10. oktober 2000 11:55
> > > > > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann victorious again?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Nils!
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you sure about the regeneration? I was thinking the same thing
> as
> > > > > you, BUT I couldn't find it in the rules. Anyway, very few Necrons
> > were
> > > > > killed by CC.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even if -1 surprise mod is not used, and the Necrons killed in CC do
> > not
> > > > > regenerate, the end result is unballanced.
> > > > >
> > > > > Warprat ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > nils.saugen_at_... wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Two points, first Necrons killed in CC doesn't regenerate,
> secondly
> > > > > > Hellreich/Darius mentioned thet the -1 to CAF modifyer for units
> > > charged
> > > > > by
> > > > > > mechs popping out of the warp, was due to the size of the mech! So
> > we
> > > have
> > > > > > do not apply that penalty to units charget by warping Necron
> Assault
> > > > > > warriors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nils
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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