Hi!
Point taken and thus the original interpretation, but it does devaluate CAF
done in this way and it also promotes some dubious tactics. It does explain
some of the impressions with people and certain units, I have long ago
stopped fearing Eldar infantry and even consider them "not a good buy" since
I always sidestep the issue by engaging two stands of the 4 breaking them
and ignoring the remaining two. Sounds like a sound tactic, but is it fair?
I'm not so sure, realistically two detachments just go at each other,
leaving some unengaged would be a bad thing in the real world, but there is
no penalty in epic, with this other alternative they act more like groups
and only movement and adequate use of reserves dictates the victor.
I am of two minds with this, but I sway towards engaging everything before
doubling up because it truly makes good close combat troops good at what
they do, otherwise they are too easy to take out with selective pinning.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: quester [mailto:quester666_at_...]
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:48 PM
To: netepic_at_egroups.com
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Re: Core rule interpretations
Eivind Borgeteien <eivind.borgeteien_at_...> wrote:
your 1 on 1 thing is what makes it hard to kill them, you lock out one of
the tactics of the game like this by aplying a rule thats not there, makes
it hard to over power a defender if you have to attack his whole line and
not just a week spot....
The way we play, that you have to attack a whole detechment 1 on 1
before doubling up makes units with good caf even better.
Thats why we have a hard time killing necrons in CC, and thats why I
have suggested a reduction of 2 in their caf. If you could "single
out" units, a reduction of 1 would be sufficient.
We will try a reduction of 1 in caf tonight, but I expect my beloved
squats to take a serious beating.
It is very difficult to discuss CAF on new units if we have two
different ways of resolving CC. We have to agree upon one!
Eivind
--- In netepic_at_egroups.com, jyrki.saari_at_n... wrote:
> [snip]
> > I agree in principle, but it's still too vague about what happens
> > with multiple units, especially when weird situations crop up
(i.e.
> > one unit contacts two enemy ones, then an allied unit arrives but
can
> > only move to contact one of the two enemy units etc.).
> >
> > Either we lump everything together (but there's a potential
> > "cheesiness problem", like using a fast, large and cheap unit to
> > "span into contact" with several enemy ones and use the trick to
make
> > an elite CC unit join combat with all enemy units at once), or we
> > specify rules to solve the problem.
> >
>
> We might say that one detachment, no matter what the size, can only
charge
> one detachment. This leads to (at least) one problem, however, I
can see a
> whole clan of Orks being forced to charge an aspect warrior unit...
Although
> it is kind of Orky (Awright, ladz, now we give dose pansies a a good
> stomping, WAAAGHHHH!). Maybe an addition that if the charging
detachment
> outnumbers the charged by more than 2:1 then it can charge multiple
> detachments.
>
> Damn, this is surprisingly difficult.
>
> As for the pairing, I experimented with a method, but unfortunately
it
> requires some _bookkeeping_ to determine who is in CC with who, so
there's
> got to be a better way to do it. C'mon, people. Get those little
gray cells
> processing ;-)
>
>
> >
> > Luca Lettieri
> >
> >
> > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor
> > -------------------------~-~>
> > Tellme Sports. Tellme Stocks. Tellme News. Just Tellme.
> > Call 1-800-555-TELL and hear everything. For info visit:
> > http://click.egroups.com/1/9529/6/_/7255/_/971877693/
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > -------_->
> >
> > To unsubscribe send e-mail to: netepic-unsubscribe_at_egroups.com
> >
>
>
> Jyrki Saari
>
> -There is no such thing as free lunch because eating takes time and
time is
> money.
To unsubscribe send e-mail to: netepic-unsubscribe_at_egroups.com
"Is it time to play?"
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE.
eGroups Sponsor
To unsubscribe send e-mail to: netepic-unsubscribe_at_egroups.com
Received on Thu Oct 19 2000 - 22:39:37 UTC