Re: Pinning..

From: <merik1_at_...>
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:02:00 -0000

The way you say it, it does sound a bit silly but look at it from the
Orc's point of view. The Necrons are waiting for orders to move
from their position and have yet to recieve anything from their
commander. The Orc's leader tells his troops "get 'em". The Orc
comes screaming up the hill and jumps on the Necron, thus initiating
close combat. So rather than the necrons standing arround waiting
for close combat, they are satnding around waiting for orders to
leave thier position. That is what the current rule effect is. The
necrons cannot do anything until that impact with the Orcs is resolved
and when you are fighting for your life, you don't have time to
calculate warp patterns.

  What you seem to be thinking is something along the lines of: Orc's
come running up and jump on the necrons...and stand around for five
minutes until someone blows a whistle letting them know that they can
now hit the enemy.

  Perhaps what you are looking for is a Snap Fire version of movement.
 I'd be interested in what you come up with but I don't think it is
possible to do in a balanced manner. I personally play the Tyranids
and this would totally negate them as well as any CC only troops.
Anytime they tried to assault, the enemy would just move away 2cm and
shoot them.


--- In netepic_at_egroups.com, Karlsen Rune <rune.karlsen_at_e...> wrote:
>
> Mine as well :)
>
>
>
> Hi
> My opinion below...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karlsen Rune [ mailto:rune.karlsen_at_e...
> <mailto:rune.karlsen_at_e...> ]
> Sent: 19. desember 2000 09:15
> To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com'
> Subject: [NetEpic ML] Pinning..
>
>
> Hi all!
>
> Nils and I recently played a game in which a stuation which caused
some
> arguing arose. He pinned some
> of my Necron Assaults (which had yet to move) with 2 infantry stands
and a
> rhino. Now, i realise they
> would be pinned according to the rules, but they do have warp
capability.
> Why can't they simply escape
> by warping? This seems very logical to me, just push a button and
off you
> go.
>
> ---->I guess it involves more than just pushing a button, you also
have to
> calculate a point of arrival, much like the Hyperdrive-programing
skill the
> pilots in Star Wars RPG has to make. A little difficult to do when
you are
> assaulted by some ravaging orks....
>
> Well, as far as i can tell, this is part of the orders phase (in
theory,
> that's when you're told where to go). Besides, the
>
> orks wouldn't simply appear, they would come towards you. A human
might be
> rattled by this, but a machine
>
> would not (ie. Necron assaults)
>
> Also, the movement of
> all units are considered to be simultaneous, so it's not like
they're
> standing idly by, waiting to be pinned.
>
> ---->Actually, they are. As they are calculating the next warpjump
they are
> standing by, idle for enemy assaults....
>
> Well, what if i decided to use the jumppacks instead? What would
they then
> have used their spare time for?;)
>
> Or maybe they were planning to walk? Were they arguing about which
way to go
> perhaps? Maybe they're
>
> just taking 5?
>
> If they had to walk towards the enemy, i concede that they would be
pinned,
> but a unit with warp capability
> shouldn't be able to be pinned imho. To my mind, this simply isnt
logical.
> If anybody could explain the logic
> behind this rule, id be grateful :)
>
> ---->In addition to the logic above, it would be hopless inballanced
if they
> never where to be pinned, and thats the best logic of it all! :)
>
> Nod, and this is the only logic i can see which justifies it. The
only
> problem with balance issues, is the
> answer you always get "That's just the way things are". I really
hate that
> answer. It just means that
> realism and logic have been put aside for gameplay...
>
> Rune
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