Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists

From: Eivind Borgeteien <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:18:25 +0100

Hi
I do agree with Nils here, lets not change the pointcosts just yet. Lets do
one thing at a time!

I think we should first playtest 8 - 10 games with the current changes,
without the pricereduction. While doing this, we should however have the
new prices in mind to see if some of the units actually should have a new
price.

If we should aply this new BP on necrons, the chance of regenerating should
go down, and the VPs should go up. The VPs for the squat is on average 1
more than their pointcost should ascribe. This should also be the case of
necrons.

I dont really like the 75% BP on the necron units, with the save and
regeneration they are really hard to take out. Because they where few in
numbers, they where given good save and regeneration, and on top of this,
they dont check moral so they never fall back! There is no need to increase
their BP.

Eivind


----- Original Message -----
From: <nils.saugen_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:41 PM
Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists


> Hi,
>
> Firstly I think the Break Point increase of the Necron is a bad idea.
> Secondly if we insists on changing it, I say lets be consistent and add it
> to all Necron units. But I think this should be accompanied by both a cost
> and VP increase!
>
> If we decide to do the BP increase just for the infantry, without a cost
> increase, then IMO we MUST add to the VP value of the cards!!!!
>
> Nils
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> Sent: 10. februar 2001 22:47
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Heres the proposed list and costs.
>
> Necron army list
>
> Necron raiders, 200 per detachment, 600 per company. Break point is 12
> (75% casualties)
> Necron assault, 250 per detachment, 750 per company. Break point is 12
> (75% casaulties)
> Necron protector, 100 per detachment
> Necron cubekeeper, 150 per detachment
> Necron cubemaster, 200 per detachment
> Necron nemesis, 250 per detachment
> Necron tormentor, 250 per detachment
> Necron punisher, 250 per detachment
> Necron mantis missile, 150 per detachment, no in groups of three models.
> Necron warp locust, 200 per model
> Necron conqueror, 350 per model
> Necron cloud dragon, 350 per squadron
> Necron moon dragon, 450 per squadron
> Necron ethereal dragon, 200 per model
> Necron annihilator, 600 per model
> Necron arachnid, 200 per detachment of three
> Necron stalker, 600 per detachment
>
> In epic there are three ways to do the break points, the first and most
> common is half (rounded up) the amount of total units. Next is the 75%
> casualties, but with attendant increase in VP's (but not cost) as per
> squat. The third, which applies to the Necron is the 75%-100 percent
> casualties for breaking applied to units that are mechanical in nature
> and suffer no morale checks (like robots). In this case there is NO
> attendant increase in VP for cost. Since necrons are the closest to this
> group I have applied that. Note this ONLY applies to their infantry no
> other units.
>
> Do to the changes in weapon stats all vehicle units are reduced an
> average of 50 points.
>
> The above units MAY NOT be used by exodus slann.
>
> Exodus slann army list
> Regulator company, no changes in draons stays at 600 per company
> Exodus raiders, no change 650 per company
> Exodus Spawnband, 650 per company
> Exodus warriors, 150 per detachment
> Exodus ghost warrriors, 200 per detachment
> Exodus ghost warriors, 250 per detachment
> Exodus skinks, 150 per detachment
> Exodus regulars, 200 per detachment
> Exodus kroxigor, 150 per detachment
> Exodus coldones, 200 per detachment
> Exodus taradon, 225 per detachment
> Exodus dragoon, 250 per detachment
> Exodus raptor, 150 per detachment
> Exodus mantis 100 per detachment
> Exodus frog, 250 per detachment
> Exodus tiger moth, 200 per detachment
> Exodus salamander, 150 per detachment
> Exodus dragon fly, 175 per detachment
> Exodus mage chief, 150 per card
> Exodus war cheif, 150 per card
> Exodus temple guard, 50 per card
> Exodus stagadon, 300 per model
>
> Overall most exodus had a reduction of 50 points per detachment. Most
> dracon units remain the same.
>
> The above units are ONLY exodus units. Can NOT be used by necrons.
>
> True slann, these units CAN be used by BOTH necron and exodus
> Gravguard, 250 per detachment, 750 per company. The reduction of range
> and to hit number lowered this.
> Spawnguards 200 per detachment, 600 per company
> Tadpole mech, no change 300 per detachment, but company card should be
> 600 since all other armies get free commander
> Frog mech, 400 per detachment, 800 for company, same as above.
> Bullfrog, 500 per detachment, support only.
> Vanguard, 400 points, special card only
> Great magus 150 per card
> Mage in tadpole, 300 per model
> Mage in frog, 400 per model
> Mage in bull frog, 500 per model
> Time mage, 500 per model
>
> These may all be used by BOTH sides
>
> Titans
>
> I know it has been said that the exodus should not have these, but these
> are really true slann units NOT exodus units, shouldn't they be brought
> to wherever they support? I think they should be shared units, at least
> the smaller mechs.
>
> I think I covered everything.
>
> Peter
>
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