Hi!
Thought you'd like that <grin>
If any other list member is interested in testing the beta version let me
know to send it to you when its done.
I will require the testers to post their findings for discussion, both pros
and cons.
Peter
>From: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
>Reply-To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
>To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
>Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:41:59 +0100
>
>EUREKA!!!!
>
>This is good!
>
>My Squat and Dark Angel armies will be ready anyday!!! (Well, eeehhh,
>almost any day that is.....)
>
>Eivind
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "peter ramos" <ramospeter_at_...>
>To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 6:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
>
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Okay, lets do the following:
> >
> > Since I have already decided some time ago to leave the the slann army
>list
> > editing last, tehre is no rush, besides i am not making army cards for
>them
> > until I paint them.
> >
> > I will issue a "beta" copy to those who are going to test then in the
> > following weeks, namely Nils, Eivind and Rune's group as well as me and
> > Darius, Ed's group.
> >
> > This beta copy will include the list of suggested changes, WITHOUT the
> > points change. In other words, test them with the current cost and
> > modifications. I'll also leave out the increased break point issue until
>you
> > guys get back to me.
> >
> > One idea I really liked was to not make a strict list as far as who
>could
> > ally with who, but let true, slann company cards attach any type of
>support
> > cards (both exodus or necron), and company cards of other types can only
> > attach support cards of that type.
> >
> > This means necron/exodus support cards can ONLY be attached to
>necron/exodus
> > company cards. You could not for example attach a necron support card to
>a
> > exodus company card or viceversa. True slann company cards can attach
> > anycsupport card from any army for flexibility. Note true slann support
> > cards however can ONLY be attached to true slann company cards.
> >
> > I really like it this is way, because people have the flexibility they
>need
> > without getting too much.
> >
> > I'll start this beta copy and distribute it to the interested parties.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > >From: "Eivind Borgeteien" <eivind.borgeteien_at_...>
> > >Reply-To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > >To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
> > >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:18:25 +0100
> > >
> > >Hi
> > >I do agree with Nils here, lets not change the pointcosts just yet.
>Lets
>do
> > >one thing at a time!
> > >
> > >I think we should first playtest 8 - 10 games with the current changes,
> > >without the pricereduction. While doing this, we should however have
>the
> > >new prices in mind to see if some of the units actually should have a
>new
> > >price.
> > >
> > >If we should aply this new BP on necrons, the chance of regenerating
>should
> > >go down, and the VPs should go up. The VPs for the squat is on average
>1
> > >more than their pointcost should ascribe. This should also be the case
>of
> > >necrons.
> > >
> > >I dont really like the 75% BP on the necron units, with the save and
> > >regeneration they are really hard to take out. Because they where few
>in
> > >numbers, they where given good save and regeneration, and on top of
>this,
> > >they dont check moral so they never fall back! There is no need to
>increase
> > >their BP.
> > >
> > >Eivind
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <nils.saugen_at_...>
> > >To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> > >Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:41 PM
> > >Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Firstly I think the Break Point increase of the Necron is a bad
>idea.
> > > > Secondly if we insists on changing it, I say lets be consistent and
>add
> > >it
> > > > to all Necron units. But I think this should be accompanied by both
>a
> > >cost
> > > > and VP increase!
> > > >
> > > > If we decide to do the BP increase just for the infantry, without a
>cost
> > > > increase, then IMO we MUST add to the VP value of the cards!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Nils
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Peter Ramos [mailto:primarch_at_...]
> > > > Sent: 10. februar 2001 22:47
> > > > To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [NetEpic ML] Slann points cost and army lists
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Heres the proposed list and costs.
> > > >
> > > > Necron army list
> > > >
> > > > Necron raiders, 200 per detachment, 600 per company. Break point is
>12
> > > > (75% casualties)
> > > > Necron assault, 250 per detachment, 750 per company. Break point is
>12
> > > > (75% casaulties)
> > > > Necron protector, 100 per detachment
> > > > Necron cubekeeper, 150 per detachment
> > > > Necron cubemaster, 200 per detachment
> > > > Necron nemesis, 250 per detachment
> > > > Necron tormentor, 250 per detachment
> > > > Necron punisher, 250 per detachment
> > > > Necron mantis missile, 150 per detachment, no in groups of three
>models.
> > > > Necron warp locust, 200 per model
> > > > Necron conqueror, 350 per model
> > > > Necron cloud dragon, 350 per squadron
> > > > Necron moon dragon, 450 per squadron
> > > > Necron ethereal dragon, 200 per model
> > > > Necron annihilator, 600 per model
> > > > Necron arachnid, 200 per detachment of three
> > > > Necron stalker, 600 per detachment
> > > >
> > > > In epic there are three ways to do the break points, the first and
>most
> > > > common is half (rounded up) the amount of total units. Next is the
>75%
> > > > casualties, but with attendant increase in VP's (but not cost) as
>per
> > > > squat. The third, which applies to the Necron is the 75%-100 percent
> > > > casualties for breaking applied to units that are mechanical in
>nature
> > > > and suffer no morale checks (like robots). In this case there is NO
> > > > attendant increase in VP for cost. Since necrons are the closest to
>this
> > > > group I have applied that. Note this ONLY applies to their infantry
>no
> > > > other units.
> > > >
> > > > Do to the changes in weapon stats all vehicle units are reduced an
> > > > average of 50 points.
> > > >
> > > > The above units MAY NOT be used by exodus slann.
> > > >
> > > > Exodus slann army list
> > > > Regulator company, no changes in draons stays at 600 per company
> > > > Exodus raiders, no change 650 per company
> > > > Exodus Spawnband, 650 per company
> > > > Exodus warriors, 150 per detachment
> > > > Exodus ghost warrriors, 200 per detachment
> > > > Exodus ghost warriors, 250 per detachment
> > > > Exodus skinks, 150 per detachment
> > > > Exodus regulars, 200 per detachment
> > > > Exodus kroxigor, 150 per detachment
> > > > Exodus coldones, 200 per detachment
> > > > Exodus taradon, 225 per detachment
> > > > Exodus dragoon, 250 per detachment
> > > > Exodus raptor, 150 per detachment
> > > > Exodus mantis 100 per detachment
> > > > Exodus frog, 250 per detachment
> > > > Exodus tiger moth, 200 per detachment
> > > > Exodus salamander, 150 per detachment
> > > > Exodus dragon fly, 175 per detachment
> > > > Exodus mage chief, 150 per card
> > > > Exodus war cheif, 150 per card
> > > > Exodus temple guard, 50 per card
> > > > Exodus stagadon, 300 per model
> > > >
> > > > Overall most exodus had a reduction of 50 points per detachment.
>Most
> > > > dracon units remain the same.
> > > >
> > > > The above units are ONLY exodus units. Can NOT be used by necrons.
> > > >
> > > > True slann, these units CAN be used by BOTH necron and exodus
> > > > Gravguard, 250 per detachment, 750 per company. The reduction of
>range
> > > > and to hit number lowered this.
> > > > Spawnguards 200 per detachment, 600 per company
> > > > Tadpole mech, no change 300 per detachment, but company card should
>be
> > > > 600 since all other armies get free commander
> > > > Frog mech, 400 per detachment, 800 for company, same as above.
> > > > Bullfrog, 500 per detachment, support only.
> > > > Vanguard, 400 points, special card only
> > > > Great magus 150 per card
> > > > Mage in tadpole, 300 per model
> > > > Mage in frog, 400 per model
> > > > Mage in bull frog, 500 per model
> > > > Time mage, 500 per model
> > > >
> > > > These may all be used by BOTH sides
> > > >
> > > > Titans
> > > >
> > > > I know it has been said that the exodus should not have these, but
>these
> > > > are really true slann units NOT exodus units, shouldn't they be
>brought
> > > > to wherever they support? I think they should be shared units, at
>least
> > > > the smaller mechs.
> > > >
> > > > I think I covered everything.
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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