Thats right, I think they are more or less balanced. What I have seen of
them is good, but I just wondered if there where any other toughts out
there. But if its not, lets close the deal and move on.
Eivind
---- Original Message -----
From: "Karlsen Rune" <rune.karlsen_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> As we have played them (with no morale score), they've never taken
> any morale checks or saves or whatever against any army.
> So, changing the morale rule, doesnt affect the way we've played
> until now. They are, after all, not immune to the chaos powers,
> just the ones which force a morale roll.
> I thought we were past this, even you Eivind, said that the Slann
> were balanced now :)
>
> Rune
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eivind Borgeteien [mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_...]
> Sent: 15. mars 2001 15:05
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
>
>
> This would work for me, but Im not quite sure on wether we should let the
> necrons be woulnerable for chaos attack or not.
>
> We could perhaps give them a moral value of 1. That way they dont fall
back
> but have a slight chance of being affected by the chaos powers.
>
> Im sure Rune will disagree on this point :-) but what does the rest of you
> say?
>
> Eivind
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: peter <mailto:ramospeter_at_...> ramos
> To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Hmm.. I seem to have misinterpreted the desires of the group on this
issue.
> The original problem came to pass regarding if Necron's, who are fearless
> (no morale value) would be affected by morale based powers. I thought that
> it was desired that they would be (no I see that interpretation was
wrong)
> and changed the wordig to reflect that.
>
> I have no problem with re-wording it so that unit units who are fearless
are
> immune to morale based powers. It seems Necron and non-Necron players
alike
> want this (of course it extends to fearless units of all armies).
>
> Now the wording will be as follows: Units without morale values (fearless)
> are NEVER required to make morale checks or save versus powers that use
the
> units morale as a saving throw.
>
> The wording in the chaos books will all revert back to morale checks
(there
> is no need for a morale save now).
>
> The rules are much simpler this way, especially from a wording point of
> view.
>
> It seems that is what is wanted. If there is a dissenting opinion let be
> known now.
>
> Opinions?
>
> Peter
>
> >From: nils.saugen_at_...
> >Reply-To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> >To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> >Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:33:22 +0100
> >
> >Hi Peter,
> >
> >Yes I know this is how you think it should work, and if thats the way
> >NetEpic wants to go that is just fine with me!
> >
> >However, I think that is an misinterpetation of the intention behind the
> >rules, so I disagree with your solution!
> >
> >We hav just decided to go the other way around in our group! Defencive
> >powers takes precedence, thus a confessor, inquisitor, mork head (or was
it
>
> >gork) and other powers that makes units immune to moraltests infact,
gives
> >the unit a moralscore of "-" thus making it immune to all types of
> >moralbased checks. You may call it a house rule, no score no check.
> >
> >Nils
> >
> >PS: IMHO there should be no doubt on this topic in the first place, the
> >wording from GW is pretty Clear! So this is IMO a change in the rules and
> >ought to have been put through a poll!
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: peter ramos [mailto:ramospeter_at_...]
> >Sent: 13. mars 2001 14:41
> >To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi!
> >
> >First I think that wording is confusing. It should read, the Kroxigor is
> >immune to fear and terror and non-physical psychic attacks. This wording
is
>
> >direct and to the point.
> >
> >I'm not sure what you mean Nils, I thought we cleared this up. The unit
> >protected by a confessor may be immune to morale "checks", but not morale
> >saves. Any unit with no morale, is immune to morale checks, but still
rolls
>
> >a morale save with a value of "1" (this was placed in the revised core
rule
>
> >section). Since most chaos powers still effect on a save roll of one,
even
> >unit with no morale value can still be affected.
> >
> >I thought the wording was clear on this. Is it?
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
> > >From: nils.saugen_at_...
> > >Reply-To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > >To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> > >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:26:20 +0100
> > >
> > >Oh MAMA
> > >
> > >PAPA has got a brand new bag of GOODIES!!!!!!!
> > >
> > >Once we are back at the chaos morale/power topic. I read through the
> > >confessor rules again. To me it seems that a detachment joined by a
> > >confessor loose its moralscore. So for all practical reasons that
> infantry
> > >unit has a morale of "-". Meaning it indeed is immune to all types of
> moral
> >
> > >tests, terrortests or whatyoumaycall'em.... I also suspects this
applies
> to
> >
> > >the Inquisitors.... Wording in the Space Marines Armies of the Imperium
> is:
> >
> > >"any imperial unit within 25cm of the Inquisitor will automatically
pass
> >any
> > >moraltest" remember this is from the days before one differed between
> moral
> >
> > >checks for breaking and terrorstest. Any moral test beeing the key
frase,
>
> >as
> > >this would indicate the same effect as for the Confessor.
> > >
> > >Further neither the Connfessor nor the Inquisitor has got a moral
> score!!!!
> >
> > >
> > >Nils
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Hellreich [mailto:helreich_at_...]
> > >Sent: 13. mars 2001 17:06
> > >To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> > >
> > >
> > >it means that they negate the powers of the Chaos units. Like Pleague
> > >Marines have nurgle rot, this is then negated. It only works for the
> auras
> > >or specific chaos cards. Auras are things that make you test for morale
> >when
> > >within a set cm range, since the Kroxigors are just to dumb, and
> protected
> > >by the warp field from the warp claws they never need to test for any
of
> >the
> > >auras.
> > >Examples are:
> > >the Primarchs powers are useless against them
> > >Plague bearers powers are useless
> > >Chaos specific Marine cards are useless
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Karlsen Rune"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 10:53 AM
> > >Subject: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Just a little question : When it says that kroxigors ignore any
> > > > demonic auras, exactly what does that mean? They have
> > > > no weapons, so they can't FF on a charging demon anyways.
> > > > Does it only mean they are immune to the morale/terror
> > > > checks?
> > > >
> > > > Rune
> > > >
> > > >
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