RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors

From: peter ramos <ramospeter_at_...>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:19:29 -0500

Hi!

The necron have been tested with no morale, this is the way they should stay. Besides you are only rendering them immune to 2-3 slaanesh powers, not a huge boon. Also to give them a morale of 1 is to infer they are vulnerable to powers like angron fearsome roar, when we know they are robots and show no fear.

I'd keep it simple, whatever small edge the Necron get are already paid for in their higher points value.

Peter

>From: Karlsen Rune
>Reply-To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
>To: "'netepic_at_yahoogroups.com'"
>Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
>Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:10:21 +0100
>
>As we have played them (with no morale score), they've never taken
>any morale checks or saves or whatever against any army.
>So, changing the morale rule, doesnt affect the way we've played
>until now. They are, after all, not immune to the chaos powers,
>just the ones which force a morale roll.
>I thought we were past this, even you Eivind, said that the Slann
>were balanced now :)
>
>Rune
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Eivind Borgeteien [mailto:eivind.borgeteien_at_...]
>Sent: 15. mars 2001 15:05
>To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
>
>
>This would work for me, but Im not quite sure on wether we should let the
>necrons be woulnerable for chaos attack or not.
>
>We could perhaps give them a moral value of 1. That way they dont fall back
>but have a slight chance of being affected by the chaos powers.
>
>Im sure Rune will disagree on this point :-) but what does the rest of you
>say?
>
>Eivind
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: peter ramos
>To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:21 PM
>Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
>
>
>Hi!
>
>Hmm.. I seem to have misinterpreted the desires of the group on this issue.
>The original problem came to pass regarding if Necron's, who are fearless
>(no morale value) would be affected by morale based powers. I thought that
>it was desired that they would be (no I see that interpretation was wrong)
>and changed the wordig to reflect that.
>
>I have no problem with re-wording it so that unit units who are fearless are
>immune to morale based powers. It seems Necron and non-Necron players alike
>want this (of course it extends to fearless units of all armies).
>
>Now the wording will be as follows: Units without morale values (fearless)
>are NEVER required to make morale checks or save versus powers that use the
>units morale as a saving throw.
>
>The wording in the chaos books will all revert back to morale checks (there
>is no need for a morale save now).
>
>The rules are much simpler this way, especially from a wording point of
>view.
>
>It seems that is what is wanted. If there is a dissenting opinion let be
>known now.
>
>Opinions?
>
>Peter
>
> >From: nils.saugen_at_...
> >Reply-To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> >To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> >Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:33:22 +0100
> >
> >Hi Peter,
> >
> >Yes I know this is how you think it should work, and if thats the way
> >NetEpic wants to go that is just fine with me!
> >
> >However, I think that is an misinterpetation of the intention behind the
> >rules, so I disagree with your solution!
> >
> >We hav just decided to go the other way around in our group! Defencive
> >powers takes precedence, thus a confessor, inquisitor, mork head (or was it
>
> >gork) and other powers that makes units immune to moraltests infact, gives
> >the unit a moralscore of "-" thus making it immune to all types of
> >moralbased checks. You may call it a house rule, no score no check.
> >
> >Nils
> >
> >PS: IMHO there should be no doubt on this topic in the first place, the
> >wording from GW is pretty Clear! So this is IMO a change in the rules and
> >ought to have been put through a poll!
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: peter ramos [mailto:ramospeter_at_...]
> >Sent: 13. mars 2001 14:41
> >To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi!
> >
> >First I think that wording is confusing. It should read, the Kroxigor is
> >immune to fear and terror and non-physical psychic attacks. This wording is
>
> >direct and to the point.
> >
> >I'm not sure what you mean Nils, I thought we cleared this up. The unit
> >protected by a confessor may be immune to morale "checks", but not morale
> >saves. Any unit with no morale, is immune to morale checks, but still rolls
>
> >a morale save with a value of "1" (this was placed in the revised core rule
>
> >section). Since most chaos powers still effect on a save roll of one, even
> >unit with no morale value can still be affected.
> >
> >I thought the wording was clear on this. Is it?
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
> > >From: nils.saugen_at_...
> > >Reply-To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > >To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> > >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:26:20 +0100
> > >
> > >Oh MAMA
> > >
> > >PAPA has got a brand new bag of GOODIES!!!!!!!
> > >
> > >Once we are back at the chaos morale/power topic. I read through the
> > >confessor rules again. To me it seems that a detachment joined by a
> > >confessor loose its moralscore. So for all practical reasons that
>infantry
> > >unit has a morale of "-". Meaning it indeed is immune to all types of
>moral
> >
> > >tests, terrortests or whatyoumaycall'em.... I also suspects this applies
>to
> >
> > >the Inquisitors.... Wording in the Space Marines Armies of the Imperium
>is:
> >
> > >"any imperial unit within 25cm of the Inquisitor will automatically pass
> >any
> > >moraltest" remember this is from the days before one differed between
>moral
> >
> > >checks for breaking and terrorstest. Any moral test beeing the key frase,
>
> >as
> > >this would indicate the same effect as for the Confessor.
> > >
> > >Further neither the Connfessor nor the Inquisitor has got a moral
>score!!!!
> >
> > >
> > >Nils
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Hellreich [mailto:helreich_at_...]
> > >Sent: 13. mars 2001 17:06
> > >To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> > >
> > >
> > >it means that they negate the powers of the Chaos units. Like Pleague
> > >Marines have nurgle rot, this is then negated. It only works for the
>auras
> > >or specific chaos cards. Auras are things that make you test for morale
> >when
> > >within a set cm range, since the Kroxigors are just to dumb, and
>protected
> > >by the warp field from the warp claws they never need to test for any of
> >the
> > >auras.
> > >Examples are:
> > >the Primarchs powers are useless against them
> > >Plague bearers powers are useless
> > >Chaos specific Marine cards are useless
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Karlsen Rune"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 10:53 AM
> > >Subject: [NetEpic ML] Kroxigors
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Just a little question : When it says that kroxigors ignore any
> > > > demonic auras, exactly what does that mean? They have
> > > > no weapons, so they can't FF on a charging demon anyways.
> > > > Does it only mean they are immune to the morale/terror
> > > > checks?
> > > >
> > > > Rune
> > > >
> > > >
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