Re: [NetEpic ML] unballanced armies

From: Albert Farr� Benet <cibernyam_at_...>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:59:41 +0200

Hi,

I don't understand why you keep saying squats have a bad CAF.

Besides from SM, which non-CC-focused army (this is, all but Nids and Chaos) fields troops with a minimum CAF of +2 (remember the "1" reroll gives Squats an equivalent of almost +2 extra CAF)?.

Eldar? no, they have very low numbers with good CAF.
IG? absolutely no, their assault troops have +1 CAF (and remember chain of command and bad morale).
Orks? their best CC troops are +3 while you reroll "1" and "2" ( equivalent to +3/+4 CAF).
Slann? Yip, they have a little better CAF but you fight them on equal numbers. Your superior firepower should balance that.
PDF and SOB? Don't make me laugh, PDF couldn't win a CC fight even against a tree... and sisters of battle are ajust a little better than PDF.

If you try to beat Nids and Chaos in CC with Squats (or any other army) then I can't say nothing, because I can't imagine how (Don't tell me with big numbers, because big numbers means big morale disadvantatges, and playing against Chaos in CC bad morale means losing CC even before starting).

Even so, a good Squat player will try to shatter the opponent's army to pieces before CC to equal numbers, or obviously will lose due to overwhelming numbers.

I'm just talking of infantry, but I really hate bikers when playing against Squats. My figures point that for every squat biker I loose about 1,5 SM bikes in CC; just compare the break points and you'll see that Bikers are really tough (but not invincible, for sure).

Anyone disagrees?


P.S. Anyone tried Squats vs Slann? I think it will be very interesting, could show the tactics ability of commanders trying to make maximum use of very few units. Kinda empty field, isn't it?
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Sam Dale
  To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 9:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] unballanced armies



> They have no infantry with good CAF. +2 at most, they have some +6 but
  only one pr detachment, so almost every army can beat you in CC. If you want
  to beat your opponent in CC you have to swarm him, which leads to my other
  point.

  Ummmm. Bikers with +4 CAF and a move of 30cm... Yeah, you can't storm
  buildings, but that's what the mass of artillery and the berserkers in
  rhinos are there to deal with.

> Few in numbers. This might sound odd as the companies are quite large. But
  because of the low CAF you have to committ at least 2/3 of a company to gain
  controll of an OP. As the companies are quite expencive I never controll
  more than 3 in a 3k game.

  I had 4 companies, 1 support and 1 special in 3k. I was outnumbered by the
  marines, but outgunned and outfought them to a terrifying degree.

> Bad movability.

  Bikes, trikes, gyrocopters. And the Overlords just keep going.

  Cheers,

  Sammy Chaos. Barprop of Slaanesh and Bane of the Organised.



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Received on Mon May 28 2001 - 23:59:41 UTC