Hi!
Pretty good points Albert, you pretty much summed up what I have seen
for Squats versus most armies. I played a Slann versus Squats with
Darius a VERY close game where the Slann lost by the barest of margins,
my mistake in that game was not having my Necron titan charge his
preatorians thus tieing it up, but hten again that would have ended in
my titan even faster. The armies look pretty similar, good shooting and
small numbers. The bikes weren't much of a problem since Necrons may
warp jump and their firepower mostly took out the bikes by turn two, but
they are few and lack the squats high break point, so casualties are a
problem. Probably one of the better games I have played in a long time,
very close affairs, most exciting.
Peter
Albert Farr� Benet wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I don't understand why you keep saying squats have a bad CAF.
>
>
>
> Besides from SM, which non-CC-focused army (this is, all but Nids
> and Chaos) fields troops with a minimum CAF of +2 (remember the "1"
> reroll gives Squats an equivalent of almost +2 extra CAF)?.
>
>
>
> Eldar? no, they have very low numbers with good CAF.
>
> IG? absolutely no, their assault troops have +1 CAF (and remember
> chain of command and bad morale).
>
> Orks? their best CC troops are +3 while you reroll "1" and "2" (
> equivalent to +3/+4 CAF).
>
> Slann? Yip, they have a little better CAF but you fight them on equal
> numbers. Your superior firepower should balance that.
>
> PDF and SOB? Don't make me laugh, PDF couldn't win a CC fight even
> against a tree... and sisters of battle are ajust a little better than
> PDF.
>
>
>
> If you try to beat Nids and Chaos in CC with Squats (or any other
> army) then I can't say nothing, because I can't imagine how (Don't
> tell me with big numbers, because big numbers means big morale
> disadvantatges, and playing against Chaos in CC bad morale means
> losing CC even before starting).
>
>
>
> Even so, a good Squat player will try to shatter the opponent's army
> to pieces before CC to equal numbers, or obviously will lose due to
> overwhelming numbers.
>
>
>
> I'm just talking of infantry, but I really hate bikers when playing
> against Squats. My figures point that for every squat biker I loose
> about 1,5 SM bikes in CC; just compare the break points and you'll see
> that Bikers are really tough (but not invincible, for sure).
>
>
>
> Anyone disagrees?
>
>
>
>
>
> P.S. Anyone tried Squats vs Slann? I think it will be very
> interesting, could show the tactics ability of commanders trying to
> make maximum use of very few units. Kinda empty field, isn't it?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From:Sam Dale <mailto:epic_at_...>
>
> To:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
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> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 9:25 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] unballanced armies
>
>
>
> > They have no infantry with good CAF. +2 at most, they have some
> +6 but
> only one pr detachment, so almost every army can beat you in CC.
> If you want
> to beat your opponent in CC you have to swarm him, which leads to
> my other
> point.
>
> Ummmm. Bikers with +4 CAF and a move of 30cm... Yeah, you can't storm
> buildings, but that's what the mass of artillery and the berserkers in
> rhinos are there to deal with.
>
> > Few in numbers. This might sound odd as the companies are quite
> large. But
> because of the low CAF you have to committ at least 2/3 of a
> company to gain
> controll of an OP. As the companies are quite expencive I never
> controll
> more than 3 in a 3k game.
>
> I had 4 companies, 1 support and 1 special in 3k. I was
> outnumbered by the
> marines, but outgunned and outfought them to a terrifying degree.
>
> > Bad movability.
>
> Bikes, trikes, gyrocopters. And the Overlords just keep going.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sammy Chaos. Barprop of Slaanesh and Bane of the Organised.
>
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