Re: [Epic] Problems with the old system

From: <duckrvr_at_...>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:45:15 -0600

At 10:09 01/22/1997 -0500, you wrote:

>> When did the powers that be remove the distinction between SHV's and
>> titan-sized vehicles?
>
> AFAIK there never was a distinction to remove. Not in 2ed
>Epic, anyway. SHVs are SHVs, despite fluff text (sure, the big Squat
>ones are supposed to be as big as some titans, but even the IG SH
>tanks are meant to be the size of city blocks, which sounds pretty
>damn big to me). Some have void shield generators, some don't. Some
>have mini plasma reactors (stormblades), some don't.
>
>> Personally I would have to say that is a galactically
>> stupid move. there should be a difference between a Shadow sword and a
>> Leviathan. Anything that carries void shield and is undergoing debate as to
>> whether it should have a construction template should DEFINITELY be treated
>> as a titan. I play chaos, and I would have been screaming about that one.

I'm sure that the Leviathan chassis and the giant Imperial termite-thingie
were classified as titan-sized vehicles. It's possible this was a house
rule, but I specifically remember a mini-painting category that included
them with titans. It's unlike GW to do so unless it's in line with the rules.

I guess I could be flaking.

> Well in order to use the TK chaos card on a Leviathan,
>Colussus, or what not you have to get a chaos troop within 15cm
>of the thing, presumably survive FF! (maybe... I really hate how
>all those chaos cards say they're used "in the combat phase" -
>considering the combat phase is made up of FF, CC, & AdvF - could
>we be a little more vague here?) and still get past the void
>shields if any are still up. Never tried it myself, but it seems
>to me that taking out a shadow sword or tempest is a hell of a lot
>easier.

What's vague? "in the combat phase" means any time during the combat phase.
I've played with people who played cards automatically whenever you wanted,
and those that declared that playing a card was a firing action. By firing
action I mean it could be counted as your turn in the "I fire, you fire"
rotation or that the detachment using the power needed a firing action
(before I get slagged, this obviously applied to things like TK and the
vortex power of the Thousand Sons, not to +1 CAF or other cc powers).
Personally, I can deal with losing my turn in rotation, but the unit using
its action is a bit too much.

Apparently lost and/or clueless
Temp
Received on Wed Jan 22 1997 - 17:45:15 UTC