Regarding basing miniatures, I've always felt as long as one miniature is o=
n the stand, it works. I try to put the right number of miniatures on the=
bases, but situations like this (not enough minis in the set to make a dec=
ent detachment), I've been pretty lenient. All of my minis are on the old =
square-style bases. The earlier version, Space Marine, had detachment card=
s that specified how many stands were in each detachment; but the mini spru=
es (Eldar in particular) never had enough minis to even fill out the number=
of units you needed for even one detachment. So I put less than 5 infantr=
y (Aspect warriors in the Eldar example) on a stand, but tried for some sor=
t of consistency in the number on each base to make at least one detachment=
.
I Think it is easier playing the game when you can see what you have, le=
t alone what your opponent is fielding, and know what you see is what you g=
et. I have played before with proxies; usually when a new fig is introduce=
d in rules but not a mini on the market yet. But if it is taken to extreme=
, everyone gets confused about what they are facing (Oh, you mean that stan=
d of gretchin is really a BloodThirster?!) It is simply easier to only pla=
y with what you have just so you, and your opponent, know what is being fie=
lded.
If you want to use proxies, I would set up some ground rules in adva=
nce that your opponent can agree with. Some suggestions would be:
Only us=
e a proxy for 1, or maybe 2, different types of units.
Consistently use t=
he same item to represent what a proxy is. (all purple gretchin are bloodth=
irsters or all matchbox cars are rhinos)
Have the proxy units CLEARLY ident=
ified (toothpick on the stand or unique colour scheme).
Indicate before uni=
ts are placed on the board which units are proxy units and what they repres=
ent; If your opponent is not familiar with the stats and abilities of the r=
epresented unit, clarify the rules. When units are revealed during play, r=
e-iterate which are proxies.
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From: Tyler Provick[SMTP:bprovick=
_at_...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 1997 8:59 AM
To: space-marine_at_t=
s.umu.se
Subject: [Epic] Slow
Has anyone else noticed that there are not =
as many posts as there usualy is?
It's like the list is deserted or somethi=
ng. (Somebody say dessert? Shaddup!)
Anyway, I guess I'll have to post a bu=
nch of stuff to make it look like
there are actually people here. (Nooooooo=
o! Shaddup I said)
First thing, hmmm. What is everybodies opinion about bi=
ke basing rules?
Right now I've only got the boxed set, so the bikes I have=
add up to two
units with 2 bikes left over. I don't consider this very use=
full. (I also
have 3 heavies and 2 sergeants) so I've decided to use them a=
s individual
bike units, otherwise I don't have enough points to even touch=
1000, and
considering that the orks easily surpassed that, I took it as a =
matter of
life and death for the Imperium. Since we are on the topic of whe=
ther or not
to allow un-painted armies to play, what about proxies. You kno=
w, the guys
who has a few orks painted up in his Marine colours subing in a=
s some other
unit, like using the ork shokk attack gun as a tarantula. I pe=
rsonally feel
it is kinda cheap, especially if the whole army is used this =
way. Why, I
remember me and my brother played a game of wh40k, with him usi=
ng tape cases
as bikes. (The ones with the big autocannons on the sides. Wa=
aagh-tape
cases!) It was a fun game, and I wrecked his bikes (Because they =
weren't
real bikes, and the Chaos Gods (The ones that rule the dice, not WH=
) decided
they should die.
So, really, if you were in a situation where yo=
u and a friend wanted to play
a game using troops neither of you had, would=
you proxie because the game is
supposed to be fun, not a show of who has t=
he most disposable income? Or
would you wait until you could purchase the m=
odels, paint them, and lose
that one night you were all geared up to use th=
em?
I myself am very impatient. For example, I told myself I would slowly =
build
up money so that I could purchase Epic 40K at the end of the summer. =
But I
wanted it, and the more I planned on how to save the money, the more =
I
wanted it. I couldn't sleep, thinking what to paint them. I surfed the ne=
t
for information on it. I had Epic fever. So I went into money making
high=
-gear, even rolled coins found in the washing room and under the couch
cush=
ions. Then the day came, I had enough. I was going to buy Epic!. So I
hoppe=
d the bus, cashed the coins, and purchased the game from the astounded
stor=
e owner. (Usually when I go in there I just look and sigh and say, I
wish I=
had a job.) Seeing as he is a nice guy, he hasn't kicked me out yet,
but I=
like to buy all my gaming needs from there. I subtly dropped the word
that=
an internet was advertising Epic for 40 something, which, while being
in A=
merican, would still put me under the cost around here. GW sells the
game f=
or 100, and my friend sells his for 90. Remember folks, this is
Canadian, n=
ot American. He mumbled something about appreciating the
business. I let it=
pass because of the look on his face. I came in, asked
him about the game.=
If it was popular, took it down, looked at it. Walked
over to the counter =
without it, asked him how much it was after tax. (Which
I always do, even i=
f I don't buy, when I buy I pull out my school
calculator, and do the math =
myself, saving him the trouble, and me having to
annoy him all the time.) H=
e replied, 103.50. I pulled out my wallet,
withdrew 103.50, and said, yes s=
ir, I think I'll buy it. His eyes bugged out
so far I thought they'd land o=
n my money. (His money now) Ahh, it was a
beautiful day.
I think that was =
boring enough that it'll kick start you into posting some
more. Either that=
or I'll tell you about the time I almost bought Space Marine.
Tyler
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