RE: [Epic] Old Space Marine (was: Orks with Landraiders)

From: Peacekeeper-� <jnug1453_at_...>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 19:50:06 -0400

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From: David Lado[SMTP:lado_at_...]
Sent: Thursday=
, August 28, 1997 11:06 AM
To: space-marine_at_...
Subject: [Epic] Old=
 Space Marine (was: Orks with Landraiders)

>>agree, the special rules for=
 SM got out of hand. Making all the
>>different races follow the same rules=
 was all that SM/TL needed
>>for a fix.
>
>You know, you really don't want =
to start this thread again.
>Actually, it wasn't really the special rules t=
hat were a problem,
>it was the fact that the interactions were sometimes i=
ll-defined.
>Some of the special rules were simple (like ork deathrollers a=
nd
>eldar aspect warriors). Ohter were complex on confusing, unfortuanly
>t=
hey got rid of all of them, and changed the character of the game
>entirely=
. Oh well.

The whole rules system was ill defined, which lead to the speci=
al
rules causing problems. For example, there is the classic "do
wave serp=
ents immoblize their targets?" debate (which is still a
contencious issue).=
  There wasn't any rules interaction persay, it
was just a lack of clearly =
defined effect. Even relatively simple
rules, like the deathroller, were n=
ot immune. The dethroller rules
say that any enemy stand could be crushed,=
 but it was unclear
whether that included cavalry, bikes and jetbikes, whic=
h come on
stands but aren't infantry. And of course, typical of SM/TL rule=
s
questions, everyone has an answer that is "complete common sense
that any=
 moron would understand", which is inevitably different
from everyone elses=
 "perfectly obvious" answers.

Yeah, but that was just GW being ambigious. =
It would have been much easier if GW would just have said it could run over=
 infanry, which was defined by the summarys. Oh well.
-James





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