Re: [Epic] Infiltrators

From: Chris White <chris_at_...>
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 13:27:51 -0700

At 01:27 PM 9/5/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>
>> It sounds like Allen the Q & A Guy should step in on this one; ask the
>>Great Jervis and/or Andy what's up with this. It seems to me that only the
>>people who can't take advantage of this think it's cheese. If you think
>>it's cheese and you CAN do this super first turn move, then I'll pay more
>>attention to what you have to say. Otherwise...
>>
>If you talked about something you knew about, then I'd care whether or not
>you payed attention to me.
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        Whoa there, Tex. What on Earth makes you think I don't know what I'm
talking about? First off, what I did with the infiltrators was perfectly
legal; if you think that it was cheesy, that is your opinion and you are
welcome to it. Second, I have not been impressed by any of your comments
to the point where I print them all out in hard copy so I may have them
around for instant referenced. To tell the truth, I have a hard time
telling the difference between rational discourse and a rant, which is not
the case with other people on this list.
        Are there, perhaps, different people using the same computer and handle?
Sometimes it is as if you think things through before you write, sometimes
it seems, well, the opposite.
        
        <snip>

I believe I was one of the first (if not the
>first, I can't remember) person to complain about this supermove, and I play
>Marines. So I guess you should have been paying attention from the beginning
>instead of assuming that I didn't like the rule because I couldn't "cheese"
>with the rest of 'em. I wonder, did it cross your mind that maybe this was
>wrong?

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        I'm not sure what you mean by "this"...

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>
>There has been so much confusion. (No, we were never discussing whether or
>not rhino's gain inflitrate from carrying infiltrator units, although it
>sorta proves my point) that the only reason I continue is to not confuse
>people who either did, or didn't use the super move.
        
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        Actually, there was some question regarding infiltrating Rhinos, or even
LRs which I was responding to. I don't remember which post it was...

        <snip>
>
>For those that want to know, the only thing that is in question is:
>
>Can infiltrators infiltrate from some sort of transport unit. The transport
>moves normally, and then the infiltrators disembarks and then fly an extra
>30cm as part of their infiltration. The question is not whether this is
>legal, but whether this is right.
>
>Tyler
>Vocanic activity has turned ME into acid (Watched Dante's Peak last night)
>

        I think part of the problem is that the extra 30cm is justifiable either way:

        Pro: Since it is first turn only, and there is no proscribed length of
turn, it is entirely conceivable that this move is possible. It is quite
common for special forces units to probe ahead immediately before a large
battle to cut supply lines, communications, etc.
        Also, IIRC, all armies have infiltrators and transport units...

        Con: Allows a move which to all intents and purposes is a March move
without any of the harmful side effects such as lung cancer, blindness, and
large amounts of FP being directed at you.

        Of course...

        YMMV


Nickles
Received on Fri Sep 05 1997 - 20:27:51 UTC