RE: [Epic] Epic Battlescene

From: Kelley, Kevin J., JCS <kevin.kelley_at_...>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:53:43 -0500

The titan formula costs titans, not weapons per se but only the space
(hardpoint to use A/C terminology) to mount them. It is clear that the
specific type of SHW or CC weapon on the titan has very little to do
with the titans point value as specified by the game designers - the
vortex missle is equal to the deth ray since the titan with the same
points cost can have either. In the example below it costs 16 pts to
give up the SHW/CC mounting point, it still has its vortex and MRL if
it wants(I t have my book so I assume you quoted two of the three wepons
it can have). I tried to take the different weapons/races into account
- analytic result is garbage, in that you essentilly have a formula for
each titan that is usleess for estimating costs of new titans.
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>From: Dirk Vormann[SMTP:DVormann_at_...-duisburg.de]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 1997 10:53 AM
>To: space-marine_at_...
>Subject: Re: [Epic] Epic Battlescene
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>> Excerpts from Epic: 9-Dec-97 Re: [Epic] Epic Battlescene by Dirk
>> Vormann_at_...
>> > > Little question : A Reaver titan with a banner pole can be seen on the
>> > > scene; therefore it only has two weapons. What is its (reduced) points
>> > > cost
>> > Hhhmmmm.
>> > Should not happen any more.
>>
>> This is true enough, though Reavers with banner poles as the only thing
>> in the carapace mount make for good character pieces. ^_^ Basically, in
>> Adeptus Titanicus you were (slightly) encouraged the not take a full
>> loadout to represent how both sides were having trouble with resupply &
>> repair for the weapons.
>>
>> >Just like Titans with 2 CC weapons.
>>
>> I'm really not sure why Jervis made that comment... there's nothing at
>> all in the rules to suggest that you can only take one weapon, and IIRC
>> his blurb is considered unofficial. You just don't get any benefit from
>> the second weapon in close combat... unless you lose the first. (To,
>> say, ripper tentacles, even even the more mundane
>> it-blew-off-and-killed-those-guys-over-there.)
>>
>> >The Titan
>> > formula we have so far estimates one Weapon system at about 15 to 16
>> > points.
>>
>> o_O That's it? When Deathstrikes and Seige artillery (roughly
>> equivalent to Vortex missile & Multiple Rocket Launcher... but Seige
>> arty are *worse*) cost just over 50 points each?
>>
>> I think you need to revamp the points a bit, there... and odds are the
>> different weapons systems should really be valued at different points
>> costs, especially between races. It's just that GW combined 'em all
>> into one... bleah.
>It was not me who came up with th Titan formula!
>DV
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