Re: [Epic] IG and Planetary Assault Landings
Los wrote:
>
> Note: This post contains some slightly off topic comments....
>
> Sauron.
> I may be able to help you with your question (having spent now 19 years on active
> and reserve duty as well as the Gulf, among other places), but I'm not sure I
> understand it. Do you want to know how long it took to deploy the whole force, or
> how quickly the first infantry, (one brigade from the 82d Airborne) took to get
> there?
>
> As far as quick reaction goes,both the 82d airborne and the 101st Air Assault
> divisions are able to deploy one battalion anywhere in the world within 18 hours of
> notification. The 82d with a little more capability for forced entry due to not
> requiring an advanced base to lift from once in theater like the 101st. Both units
> could then have the rest of the brigade on site within 48 hours.
>
> Not being a Marine I'm not familiar with their exact capabilities though I'm sure
> they are similar. All three Ranger battalions maintain similar capabilities though
> one bn is usually stood down for leaves and schools etc. and would take a little
> longer.
>
> Regular mech and tank divisions have similar rapid reaction capabilities though are
> limited by requiring more time to get their heavy gear over.
>
> Hope that helps a little bit.
>
> The limit for any division is two fold. Training readiness and logistics. All
> divisions maintain a green/amber/red cycle, which means one brigade is ready for
> deployment, one is in it's heavy training cylce, (usually deploying or preparing to
> deploy to either NTC or JRTC) and one brigade is stood down on "post support"
> (Leaves, schools, shit details etc.) Given this cycle, it would require extemely
> dire circumstances for a division commander to deploy his whole division for a
> short term crisis.
>
> Even if he wanted to, logistics plays a second factor. For one thing there just is
> not enough airlift and sealift capability to get everybody there quick. Though this
> is somewhat ealleviated by prepositionsing equipment, those prepositioned stocks
> (some on floating ships ready to deploy) may not be anywhere near the crisis
> theater.
>
> Finally the other current "training and readiness distractor" for American units
> are all these peacekeeping operations. When you are on these things, there is
> little to know readiness training above the individual and squad level that can be
> conducted. This begins to degrade capability very quickly. While the capability can
> be recovered fairly quickly, it still takes two or three weeks.
>
> In the 40k world, I find it hard to believe that Mars is the only place that makes
> weapons, given the immensity of the Imperium and the relative slowness of travel.
> What a great target that planet would make! I've got to believe that the I.G. must
> prepostion stocks on several on a number of planets around the Imperium to sustain
> all thse war efforts. I mean, when you take into account the current Tyrannid
> invasion,and it's immense breadth, that would task the logistical pipeline to the
> breaking if it's all coming from Mars!
>
> Los
>
> Sauron Moridor wrote:
>
> > Sauron1 writes;
> >
> > How long did it take the Basic American infantry to deploy effectively
> > in the Persian Gulf war? I propose that humans do not change that mutch
> > and the IG would take the same amount of material support and such to
> > get on with the job. There are a few Military analists on this list who
> > could supply some numbers .
> >
> > sauron1Great response! Thanks.
Thane
Received on Thu Jan 01 1998 - 17:57:10 UTC
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