Re:[Epic] Khorne Berserkers

From: Chad Taylor <ct454792_at_...>
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:00:45 -0500 (EST)

On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Mark A Shieh wrote:

> "Cameron Bentsen" <stu7i95_at_...> writes:
> >In message "[Epic] Khorne Berserkers", you write:
> >The card seems pretty well balanced to me at +5 CAF. It also seems to fit the
> >40K concept pretty well, although Chaos has so many kinds of CC beasties that
> >I doubt it really needs another one.
> >

I don't like to use the beasties myself, I'm more into using a pure Marine
army. Something a little closer to the rebellion.

> >> I had considered giving them the Daemon Engine rules: if winning then +1
> >> save (for a whopping 6+ in this case), a +1 to hit, and an extra d6 in CC.
> >> This is in trade for the ability to FF. As far as I can tell by looking
> >> at other models, this seems to be a straight up trade.
> >
> > This wouldn't be a good idea here, IMO.
>
> I agree with everything said up to this point... Maybe if you
> gave them a fixed 6+ save? Or do they not have 2+ saves in 40k? I
> think that armor of Khorne would be enough to warrant the 6+ save, and
> would help a bit for getting into CC.
>

They get the 2+ save in 40k. I figured that with the scope of Epic that
2+ wouldn't be worth a save if 3+ (the normal power armor) didn't get you
anything. I just used it as a justification to pump up their CAF by one,
the idea being that they will last loger in CC. The other point came from
their ability to frenzy and still have a parry (in 40k).

> If you give them the Demon Engine power, I'd like you to
> compare them to Striking Scorpions. Neither one can FF, but the
> Marines always have 3d6 in CC, get 5 for 150 instead of 4, have a 6+
> save, a 30cm charge, and a 1+ morale instead of 2+, and the Marines
> have a token Advance fire shot. And Eldar aren't exactly the weakest
> army for fielding CC specialist infantry... I enjoy fielding the
> Scorpions all the time, and don't consider them weak. Fragile, yes.
> :(
>
> Mark
>

very good point, unlike the daemon engines the Khorne troops don't lose
enough to make up the difference. I agree that they shouldn't have that
ability. I had wanted to include the FF
restriction just the same. It fits the units background (they are
frenzied). I would suggest that the no FF restriction be given to them
just to even it out.

Remember to, that they don't always get the 30cm charge; only if they will
end up in CC that turn. That power is copied straight out of the Chaos
Codex.
Received on Thu Feb 13 1997 - 21:00:45 UTC