>> which have no relation to the background material. How about 40 stands
>> of nobz and no boyz for an ork detach?
>That would be 41 stands. You forgot the Warlord. Read the OLD fluff
>(Waagh, The Orks or 'Er We Go). Sounds like a Goff clan to me.
----------> Don't think anybody gets all _nobz_ and no boyz. Who do they
boss around?
Goffs get Skarboyz for elite assault troops, but they aren't nobz...
>
>> How about 10 deathstrike missiles as a detach?
>
>Ten shots, total. Big deal, you spread out and all he gets is 10-20
>targets. That unit could, at best, drop 10 BM on the other side and
>kill off 10-20 units. Remember that it needs LOS to hit a unit. And
>for 530 points (what this would cost) I would be able to deploy, say my
>Goff clan (
>http://www.spellbooksoftware.com/epic/detachents/Waagh-Tunez/goff.htm )
>which drops 48 firepower (or 72 if I use the "dakka" card on it) or if I
>wanted to be isulting about it, for 384 pts (about 70% the cost if the
>DSM detachment) I could use the "Snots and Grots support group (
>http://www.spellbooksoftware.com/epic/detachents/Waagh-Tunez/grot-spt-grp.h
tm
>) which drops 50 FP a turn. 24 of which is artillery, needing no LOS.
---------> This 530 points probably wouldn't be aimed at your infantry, but
at your gargants and battle fortresses. 3 vortexes can take out a fully
shielded gargant or great gargant, which are 300-400 points each and likely
to be within LOS before they get into range of very much with their own
weapons. Take 3 vortexes per enemy gargant (you porbably have a good idea
how many titans a regular opponent will have) and you've invested 159 points
to wipe out a 300+ point unit.
>
>> Before, Pulsa Rokkits were available in groups of three
>> and were a mekboy card, limiting the numbaer which could be taken.
>> What's the limit now, 10 per detach?
>Unless, of course, you had a Kult of Speed as the base line unit. Then
>you get, what 15 Pulsa?
--------> But you were giving up that irreplaceable 5 mekboy slot company
card, which was also cheap. If I took 15 pulsas, I was giving up the chance
to work in MagnaKannons, Dragstas, Mekboy Speedstas, etc.- it went beyond
just the points costs.
>> How about taking one marine unit to
>> boost the strat rating in an IG army?
>
>Only matters if you are fighting Orks. An IG army will always have
>lower SR than eldar, always be higher than 'Nids and Chaos has the same
>variable SR rule in place. And the Ork rule on replacing counters
>before assult phase tends to even that out.
----------> Agreed that this isn't a huge problem, but it's mentioned fairly
often so I thought I'd include it.
>
>
>> I like the flexibilty of the new
>> system but it's certainly open to abuse.
>
>All point based systems are open to abuse.
----------> Some moreso than others : )
and I was answering the original point about the old system being
abuse-prone and the new one not...
Chris Miller
Received on Sun Feb 08 1998 - 19:04:29 UTC