---------> ya know, I keep trying to drop this, and people just keep spewing
ignorance...
>Well dont worry, i wont be playing my National Socialist Guard forces with
a
>bunch of people who cannot handle the sight of the swastika.
---------> Perhaps they aren't "man enough" to handle it, eh?
I don't think "handling" it is the problem. Taste, maybe...
>
>I do not have anything against it, it is a widely used symbol, chinese have
>used it, mongols have used it, everybody has used it!
--------> same old tired thing the Skinheads/Aryan nuts/fascist retro
wannabees put out in their crap. "The Nazi's didn't invent it" etc. Doesn't
erase the baggage the Nazi's loaded it with.
>
>Before WWII there was no problem with it
---------> Exactly. _before_ the war there was no problem with it. Since
then, there has been.
, and indeed until recently it was
>just considered the banner of an old enemy!
---------> recently as in the last 50+ years. Before that I don't think too
many people considered it at all.
>
>Until all these documentaries, i.e. propaganda, came out, i mean hey, it
>does'nt take a genius to see that these shows present little fact and alot
of
>personal slander
--------> Against who? Hitler?
, comical if you ask me. I'm not stupid, i can tell what is
>propaganda and what is not!
---------> Apparently someone's given you a pretty good dose of some. Go
ahead and say that the concentration camps were a hoax, that's usually the
next line...
>
>Look at the wars of the past, how many armies have exterminated large
numbers
>of peoples? the Mongols exterminated 4-10 million chinese civillians, 2
>million Arabs, and a few thousand Russians.
---------> So that makes a swastika OK? Because other people did it?
(And I wouldn't get too hopped up on a "hammer & sickle" plastered all over
my mini's either.)
>
>Even durning the crusades there was "ethnic cleansing" or jews and arabs.
------->Again, does that make this other stuff OK? You weren't talking about
making a Templar army.
>
>After WWII Russia exterminated 10-20 million Ukranian Civillians for
helping
>Germany!
-------> Yep - killed lots of their own folks. That gives me an idea...see
below...
>
>The Nazis were nothing special
--------> True.
, everybody has exterminated large numbers of
>non-combatants.
--------> Not true.
>
>The recent trend in the US and Europe of promoting things like world peace,
>love of life, etc. etc. have made the masses a bunch of morons who cry "war
>crime" when any damn little slaughter breaks out!
---------> The peaceniks can be a bunch of wackos, but no more so than the
neo-nazis, skinheads etc. I haven't heard too many cries for "War Crimes"
unless you have troops rounding up civillians and raping, shooting,
mutilating them etc - and how to you quantify a slaughter as "a little"?
(And peace- what a terrible concept, what could those people be thinking -
Unlikely, yes, and I don't think we need to dismantle our M-16's, but ain't
that the purpose of having an army - to give you peace?)
>
>WWII, being not so long ago, has had alot of attention paid to it, thus
many
>people focus on that as being the most horrible instance of "genocide" in
>history, but again, nothing special.
--------> Except, of course to the people who were there. And it was far
more organized and systematic than most. Not just Jews involved there
either - any relatives at Malmedy?
>
>War is war, war is hell......but only if done right....
------------> Not sure what your point is here.
>
>Sorry for ranting, got a bit out of hand, but damnit, this discussion was
>about a scenario for epic, not a damn forum to declare personal political
>opinions!
--------> Well, if you start posting about how great Nazis were and that the
SS were the greatest fighters in history, you really should expect some
grief.
>
>Oh well, lets drop it and get bacl to epic, heheheh.
>Erik von Totenreich
---------> Trying to...
>
>
>P.S.
>You guessed it, i'm not big on Human Rights or "War Crimes" trials.
>Especially since the U.N. and U.S. use selective prosectution, i.e. Iraq
>shelter incident, Israeli bombing of U.N. refugee compound, etc.
-----------> well this gives me an idea, which I mentioned above - why don't
you make a unit using the insignias of all those forces you mentioned above
as massacring civillians, etc. Mongols, Russians, etc. Why stop with just
the SS? What a great theme for a miniatures game...
Chris Miller
Received on Wed Feb 11 1998 - 05:57:58 UTC
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