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From: Peter Ramos <pramos1_at_...>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:20:09 +0000

Greetings!

This is the full list of what titan weapons and their respective chassis
are worth. Most are from AT's formulas (which coincide with Tony's
calculations) and those that did not have values were determined with
Tony's formula.

The values in parentesis are the old AT ones that were different from
Tony's calculations.

BASIC WEAPONS
WEAPON Adjusted Cost
Gatling Blaster 125
Laser Blaster 100 (75)
Melta Cannon 100 (75)
Quake Cannon 150
Turbo-Laser Destructor 150
Vulcan Mega-Bolter 100 (75)
Volcano Cannon 175
Carapace Multi-Lasers 50

PLASMA WEAPONS
Blastgun 125
Cannon 200
Destructor 250



CLOSE COMBAT WEAPONS
Battle Claw/Power Fist 50 (25)
Chain fist/Power Saw 75 (50)
Combat Head 50 (25)
Laser Burner 75 (25)
Power Ram 75 (50)
Wrecker 50 (50)

BARRAGE/TEMPLATE WEAPONS
Deathstrike Cannon 150
Inferno Gun 100 (50)
Multiple Rocket Launcher125 (100)

ONE-SHOT WEAPONS
Barrage Missle Launcher 200
Harpoon Missle 150
Vortex Missle 300 (supposed to be rare and expensive)
Warp Missle 150

SPECIAL WEAPONS
Carapace Landing Pad 75
Corvus Assault Pod 300 (no free terminators allowed!),maybe 200?
Fire Control Center 150
Trident 100 (50)

First, the cost of a Titan chassis is as follows:
Warlord=500
Reaver=300
Warhound=150

The values in parentesis are the AT values, notice that the close combat
weapons are very cheap (good to stimulate people using them).

Next, add up the cost of all weapons, divide the result by two,
and add to the cost of the chassis. Round to the nearest 50 pts. Also if
everone agrees we can just half the above values and eliminate the step
of dividing by two at the end.
 
 Examples taken from the Codex Titanicus:
 
 1. Warlord w/ Vortex Missle (300), Volcano Cannon(175), Gatling Blaster
 (125)
         Power Fist (50). Total weapons cost = 750/2 = 375.
         TITAN COST = 875 -> 900
 
 2. Reaver w/ Gatling Blaster (125), Turbo-Laser Destructor (150), Warp
 missle (150)
         Total weapons cost = 425/2 = 212.5
         TITAN COST = 512.5 -> 500
 
 3. Reaver w/ Barrage Missle Launcher (200), Chainfist (75), Vulcan
 Mega-Bolter (100)
         Total weapons cost = 375/2 = 187.5
         TITAN COST = 487.5 -> 500
 
 4. Reaver w/ Multiple Rocket Launcher (125), 2X Turbo-Laser Destructor
 (300)
         Total Weapons cost = 425/2 = 212.5
         TITAN COST = 512.5 -> 500
 
 5. Reaver w/ Turbo-Laser Destructor (150), Vulcan Mega-Bolter (100),
 Inferno Gun (100)
         Total weapons Cost = 350/2 = 175
         TITAN COST = 475 -> 500
 
 6. Reaver w/ Multiple Rocket Launcher (125), Chain fist (75), Plasma
 Blastgun (125)
         Total weapons cost = 325/2 = 162.5
         TITAN COST = 462.5 -> 450

 7. Warhound w/ Turbo-Laser Destructor (150), Inferno Gun (100)
         Total weapons Cost = 250/2 = 125
         TITAN COST = 150 + 125 = 275

AND
 
    Warhound w/ Plasma Blastgun (125), Vulcan Mega-Bolter (100)
         Total Weapons cost = 225/2 = 112.5
         TITAN COST = 150 + 112.5 = 262.5

Cost of Warhound Detachment = 300 + 125 + 112.5 = 537.5 -> 550
 
If you are buying weapons for a Titan Battlegroup, then round the
costs for the whole BG, not for each individual Titan. When you buy a
battle group you receive a free chassis, the cost of the weapons for all
three titans must be purchased.
 
Example of a Reaver Battlegroup:
Titans 2., 4, and 5.

Chassis costs =600 (one chassis free)
Total Weapons costs = 212.5 + 212.5 + 175 = 600
BG Cost = 1200

Chaos Titan weapons

Bloodletter Head 75
Chaos Energy Whip 50
Chaos Titan Tail 50 on a banelord 75 due to firing capabilities
Deathstorm 175 has good range and a lot of dice!
Doomburner 150
Doomfist 75
Hellblade 50
Havoc Missiles 50 since it takes 2 weapon points it has to
be cheap
Hellstrike Cannon 75

On the whole titan weapons are cheap due to their short range of fire
and also they add distinction to a chaos titan so should be in an
accesible cost range. Hull values are the same as for Imperial titans

Eldar Weapons

Heat Lance 100
Pulsar 300 this weapons has no drawbacks!
Tremor Cannon 175 ignores shields!
D-Cannon 250 *see coment below*
Lascannon Wing 150
Psycannon 150
Power Fist 100 this thing shoots!
Missile Launcher Wing 50 to stimulate use it has to be cheap
Hull 300 its weapons is what makes it expensive!
Hull for warlock Titan 400

Comment: I will try to bring back the old AT rules on this one, it was
truely fearsome as it destroyed anything without shields without save
and shield targets were imune. If caught without shield-ouch! Bye
Titan! I'll tone it down somewhat but it will be still pretty powerful
and thus the cost. I post the full rules later.

Orks

Battle Cannon Head 125
Battle Cannon Turret 75
Cluster Buster 75
Gork/Mork Head 150 its effect on morale is to great to be cheap
Deth Cannon 150
Gatling Cannon 150
Gut Buster 200 For what it does it has to be expensive!
Snapper 50
Magnum Mega Cannon 175
Observation Turret 100
Ripper Fist 125 This one shoots too!
Scorcher Turret 50
Slasha Attack Gun 150
Super Lifta Dropper 125
Hull 550

I think the gargant has traditionally been harder to destroy than a
warlord so the hull costs more the weapon though are less expensive on
average.
As for the Mega Gargant and the Mekboy gargant they come pretty much
with the same weapons so I left them alone with their present cost.

Tyranids need such a overhaul that we'll probably redo the whole army!

Well, we will combine or price discussion with the weapons description,
so nows the time to put in your two cents about what the weapon does to
bring it in equality with its values.

United we stand!
Peter
Received on Tue Feb 25 1997 - 14:20:09 UTC

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