Re: [Epic] Detailed Daemon Engines.

From: tzeench <tzeench_at_...>
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:19:48 -0700

> Nurgle:
> Contagion - from what I saw posted I believe the case is closed on this
one.
> Plague Tower - "Boarding Actions" - does anyone use one, does anyone
care?
> [I could post the SM rules for this if anyone would like to see them.]

I think the epic 40K versions of the nurgle daemon engines represnt the
spacemarine versions quite well. I wouldn't bother about special rules for
the nurgle plague tower boarding actions. It was a minor ability rarely
used due to the speed of the tower. It would also require making up new
rules (special ability) , which is against the style of epic 40k (ie each
unit having exotic rules as in space marine)

> I agree with Tzeench, who beat me to the punch here. I was going to post
a
> message on this topic. According to the GW "fluff" that I've read about
> Daemon Knights (WD 190), they are the remnants of "Knight Households
> [which] have been corrupted by Chaos down the centuries." The E40K rules
> for Imperial Knights (CJ 21) describe them as having a "directional power
> field" which gives them a "Save" against hits. Now I will mix the old
and
> the new rules together in regards to the Slaanesh DK's. I can easily
> envision their directional power fields becoming corrupted by Chaos and
> manifesting themselves as the [shifting, swirling aura called the]
"Glamour
> of Slaanesh" which would work the same way, giving a DK a "Save" against
hits.

Yes. The old imperial knights use to have a 3+ armour unmodified from the
front only while the slaanesh ones had 2+, a -1 to hit and a 4+ pyskic
save. I would consider these to be pretty equal in quality. Therefore
they should have the same in epic 40K (ie save ability)
>
>
> Both the Subjugator and Questor Titans also possess the "Glamour of
> Slaanesh" which might make them a bit more desirable to take along,
> considering their low Damage Capacity of 4 in E40K.
>
I'm not sure if I would give the titans the save ability. It would follow
the background but it would make them a lot more expensive. How much do
you think that would cost. Say the questor titan stays as is (10FP) and
gaines save, while the subjugator now has 3 AT, close combat weapon and
save. Would this make them equal to warhounds? 200 points each?


> In terms of how easily they can die in E40K, is it comparable to SM?

they were horrible in close combat in SM. I think it depends on your luck
and the army your facing. If you opponent has any deathrays, your titans
are in trouble. They had no shilds in the old rule but thier was a -1 to
hit them. I would say they are about equal except for close combat (more
durable now in CC)

>
> One last thing on these two, WD 190, page 33: "Slaanesh Scout Titans are
> very fast and agile, so unlike larger Titans they can turn as many times
as
> they want while moving." I can't remember if this is in the new rules or
not.
> What do you (collectively) think about this? I think this seems
> reasonable, considering their relatively small size. They're only
slightly
> larger than the Hell-Knight & Hell-Scourge miniatures.

This is represented by thier large movement rate in E40k.
 
> Finally, one last thing. No one has has said anything about the Silver
> Towers. For me this is another flavour enhancer.
> Silver Towers:
> "Magical Warding" exists between two towers within 10 cm's of each other,
> anything targeted (by an AT shot for example) through this field will
> receive a +1 armour bonus up to a maximum of 6 (or a "Save)." Once
again,
> I think that I prefer the idea of a "Save".
>

It didn't help much in SM. just kill one tower, gain 4VP. not worth it if
you are chaos. I like thier stats in E40k. Just like in SM except no
shield and they don't cost nearly as much.

> Did anyone ever use this when playing SM? Was it of any real use?
> Someone could place their H.Q. unit behind this field for added
protection.
> {If I ever get a hold of a scanner I could e-mail people a *.gif or *.jpg
> of the Magical Warding Template if they wanted it.)
>

To much effort to make special rules like this for only one unit.

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