Re: [Epic] Re: [EPIC] Epic 40k stats/pre-sale

From: <pickles_at_...>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:57:24 +0000

> Jason Stephensen wrote:
> > Oh, so the threat of the Tyranid, chaos incursions, ork invasions and
> > traitorous world leaders only have teeney tiny armies so that the marines
> > can make a difference? My opinion of the battles, the real battles are of
> > enormous numbers of troops. The novels suggest huge numbers. The Imperial
> > fleet is said to be able to block out the stars from it's size. Why would
> > the battles be of a smaller scale in the future? And why would they suddenly
> > become personal? Just to justify GW's beleif that Close Combat is the be all
> > and end all of future war? Most warfare at present has less personal contact
> > then ever, why would it reverse so much?
>
> To flog a dead horse again:
>
> Because the morons^H^H^H^H^H^Hgame designers at GW only write rules for
> re fighting Waterloo has a lot to do with it. The whole concept of
> small arms fire have about the same range as tank guns, much less
> artillery is flawed. With some thing like modern small arms you are
> talking 500 meters or so. With modern (Gulf War figures here) support
> missiles (TOW, Milan, Sagger etc) have a range of 3000-4000 meters.
> Tank cannons have about the same range. Field artillery has a range of
> 12 km for the smallest guns rangeing up to 40 km for the MRLS systems.
> The idea that a commander has to worry about his batteries being
> attacked by hordes of infantry charging the guns means that you are
> wearing you hat sideways and have your hand over you navel.
>
> Regardless of what you claim the scale in epic is, it has a problem with
> comparative range.
 It does if you want realism but I gave up any hope of that a long
time ago with GW. I like the GAME that there is in epic. The
background fluff adds to this but it is not reallistic or plausible
either. I do not let this worry me. I would suggest that if one wants
realism one ought to try another game system. If one wants a good game
with good feel of a relentlessly violent future stick with Epic. It seems
futile trashing Epic on realism grounds as it is sooo far from being
realistic that realism does not come into the frame.

Pickles

BTW I agree with Napoleonic analogy
Received on Fri Mar 07 1997 - 15:57:24 UTC