Re: [Epic] more thoughts on Epic40K

From: Elias Tiliakos <elite_at_...>
Date: Wed, 21 May 97 15:12:40 EDT

Instead of multiplying, dividing, or using math at all, why don't
you just separate the attack into two "phases", one for the barrages,
and one for normal firepower? The barrage's fp and dice could only
be allocated to units actually _under_ the templates, and the non
barrage weapons would act as normal, i.e. hit the foremost unit, etc.

Sound good?

Elias


At 08:30 AM 5/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I found the note in the appendix that players may want to make up
>some rules about how hits are applied when using barrages--i.e.
>treating models under a barrage as being on the "front". You'd
>have to take into account the ratio of barrage FP to normal FP,
>but you could guess at this easily.
>
>Looks to me like there are 4 columns of difficulty to hit, with
>the 3 columns of the FP table plus using 1 die per FP for immobile
>war engines in the open. These columns seem to multiply the FP
>by some factor. The factors are (I think) 1, .75, .5, .4. If
>you wanted to fool around with this (I'm not recommending it, since
>it would take longer), you could do some interesting variations.
>Instead of having the table scale your FP, you could roll one die
>per FP, and then another die (a d8 easily gives you .75 (3+), .5 (5+),
>and approximates .4 as .375 (6+), to apply the appropriate column.
>For example, to use the vehicle/infantry in the open column (factor
>is .5), roll 1 die per FP (you need a lot of dice :-), and for each
>hit, roll for 5+ on d8. Obviously, the maximum number of hits you
>can get goes up a lot, but the average should be around the same.
>
>This method lets you apply the correct effect of each column to
>each figure, for detachments partially in cover, or one immobilised
>Scorpion in a detachment of 3.
>
>You could either roll hits, apply the appropriate target die (or
>cover die or situation die or whatever you want to call it), and
>then assign hits to units normally; or you could roll hits, apply
>them to units, and then roll for which ones were actually hit.
>
>Although this gives some interesting features, like applying cover
>to each unit according to its own situation, and giving more variation
>in how many could be hit, and feeling like all the guns you are
>shooting at a detachment has some chance of having an effect, it
>adds a bunch more dice, and (more importantly) adds rolls that have
>to be made once per figure. I think the optional rule of being
>able to hit units under a barrage is more useable. Still, fun to
>think of such things! I suppose you could also scale the armor
>values to apply the above factors. You wouldn't do it on a d6,
>since there isn't enough precision. But you could multiply each
>armor save by 2 and subtracting 1 (for rolling on a d12), and use
>that for the immobilized war engine column, and then figure out
>what each armor value would be multiplied by .75, .5, and .4.
>Then you'd roll all your hits on the larger die. You'd have to
>have a chart for those, but it is another way to apply the factor
>applied in the FP chart while still keeping 1 die per FP.
>
>Just me being silly.
>
>andy
>askinner_at_...
>
Received on Wed May 21 1997 - 19:12:40 UTC