RE: [Epic] Q&A 2 (and notes)

From: raven <raven_at_jumpgate>
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 08:33:40 -0500

        Ok here is another thing to think about, if a unit that has a save (i.e. a
hero) is snap fired at a 6 is rolled dose the Hero still get a save?
Normaly I would say yes but if FP dosen't change any thing then well .........
This would make a person think about where one moves there Titans.

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       Cory
Have Fun Play Nice




At 11:41 AM 5/29/97 +0100, you wrote:
>David Lado wrote:
>>
>> >>> All snap fire hits the same, not as a SHW, so I think it would hit at
>(armor
>> >>> value)+, and kill with the same rule. However, Fire Prisms have AT and
>> >>> flak, and I agree that they would hit on 4+ and then kill on 4+.
>> >>>
>> >>> Temp
>> > IIRC the snap-fire rules make no
>> >distinction based on fp, or even whether or not you are firing a SHW. You
>> >just roll one die against the opponent's armor value. I'll try to
remember
>> >to look a page number up tonight.
>>
>> Page 15 of the rule book (SNAP-FIRE)
>>
>> Second Paragraph:
>>
>> "The unit can move no further - the sudden burst of enemy fire cause it
>> to halt. In addition the attacker rolls a D6 to see whether they get a
>> hit. Note, you always roll 1D6, no matter what the Firepower of the
>> attacker. If the D6 roll equals or beats the moving unit's Armour value
>> it takes a hit in addition to being halted. The effect of hits is
>> explained in the Shooting Phase."
>>
>> So my take is that snap-fire is a special attack independent of what
>> weapon (or even if a weapon) is being used. I see how it makes
>> sense to say that since SHWs "reduce the enemy's armour value", the
>> modified armour value should be used. However, none of the other
>> rules for normal shooting apply (such as LOS, cover, and target
>> selection), I see no reason to apply the SHW special rulez either.
>> I guess the point is that snap-firing is not "shooting your weapon"
>> at an enemy. After all, units without any ranged weapons at all
>> (like genestealers and beastmen) can still snap-fire, so the exact
>> nature of the weapon being used doesn't seem to be a consideration.
>> Still, I think it's a good one for the next Q&A (and add to that
>> the question of whether an infantry unit gets the armour bonus for
>> being in cover).
>>
>> David
>
>FWIW, I agree with both you and Temp, and for exactly the reason you
>give. But we might all be wrong. And as this question is not confined
>to shooting at flyers, perhaps it's one for the Q&A.
>
>How about this for a Q&A post -
>Q - an enemy unit with an armour of 5+ moves within 10cm's of my Land
>Raider. I yell "snap fire!" I roll one die to hit. Does the enemy
>unit suffer a hit:
>a) if I roll 5 or higher (as this beats the target's armour value, and
>the shooting unit's firepower is irrelevant for snapfire) or
>b) if I roll 4 or higher (as the AntiTank shot treats the target's
>armour value as 4+, which the die roll has beaten)?
>
>Richard
>
>a)
>has to be else you're gonna start getting into the land of exceptions
>which i thought we had tried to leave back with 2nd ed.
>if you're gonna say but i'm using AT shots which lower the armour
>i'm gonna make you roll at least a 4+ to lock on for a SNAP fire.
>note SNAP
>not AIMED
>not OVERWATCH
>not i've gotta tripod and i know how to use it with this grenade
>launcher
>oh and i've got a big knife too...
>
>SNAP
>as in SNAP-SHOT
>quick
>reflex
>from the hip
>
>IMHO
>
>Phil
>
Received on Thu May 29 1997 - 13:33:40 UTC