Re: [Epic] Ork Units & Tactics [Long]

From: David Lado <lado_at_...>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:53:20 -0400 (EDT)

>> These rules have
>> been playtested (despite cynical comments otherwise ;), and I find it
>> very unlikely that there are truely any useless units in the list.
>
> With the rules as written: IG tac troops. Thousand Sons.
>There's probably something useless in most lists (just not as much
>as there used to be).

These units aren't intrisnically bad (IMO anyway), they just get dorked
by their detachment structure. For example, 7 pts for an IG tactical is
not that bad (it's in line with ork units anyway), but paying +25 pts
for every 3 squads (vs every 10 in other armies) makes them a much
worse deal. Likewise, TS marines are not a bad deal. They are not as
good a deal as marines, but different armies pay different amounts for
the same type of units. What makes TS less effective is that you can't
get the stubborn bonus if you field support units.

>> SM/TL was ripe with people saying units X and Y were useless in the ork
>> army, and almost every time they were simply wrong. I found excellent
>> uses for many "worthless" units and considered "worthless" many units
>> that other ork players considered outstanding. The reason was that I
>> had developed a style of play which took advantage of some units, but
>> left others no useful role. I have no doubt that this pattern will
>> repeat itself in e40k, so don't just crunch numbers to figure out
>> who's the best. Put the units on the field, try them in different ways,
>> and _then_ decide who's naughty and nice. The results may suprise
>> you.
>
> Which doesn't mean that there can't be units that are useless
>no matter what. The SM/TL IG list (and, to a lesser extent, Chaos) was
>filled with such units: Hellbores, Firelords, etc etc ad nauseum.

Hellbores... Forgot about those fellers (with good reason, they were
very forgettable). I admit, there were definitely some stinkers in
the other lists I had forgotten about. Hellbores definetly sucked, as
did the Capitol Imperialis. There were also units which, while not
useless, were overpriced. Guardians come to mind, but there were other
examples. And then there were the IG assault troops, an idea that was
so plain silly and only some one who had been tanning their brain in
the Australian desert would actually field one ;)

David
Received on Tue Jun 24 1997 - 20:53:20 UTC