Hi!
I think it should cost a lot more. We have this same problem with
praetorians with the net epic changes. One you move away from the "one shot
your dead" problems from before the cost goes up, but by how much?
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: <jyrki.saari_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 8:03 AM
Subject: [NetEpic ML] Ogres (was: Re: Netepic Background)
> [snip]
> > The first pass they were. The second pass saw a change to the damage
> > tables so that they weren't quite so bad (if you got through their
> > armor you damaged/destroyed a weapon).
> >
> > Also keep in mind that they lack any type of shields. So unlike
> > Titans, where the first x number of shots are spent taking down
> > the shields, your first shots are immediately hitting the Ogre
> > (possibly stripping away guns and the like).
> >
> > I also listed the table that I used to construct the armor values.
> > I gave Ogres an addition -1 to their armor values. This could be
> > removed (although if it was ... I'd remove the flash back potential
> > from the secondary batteries, so that any joe-blow with a Bolter
> > wasn't able to kill an Ogre). This would mean that only the primary's
> > were immune to infantry fire (so enough Infantry could get a mission
> > kill on an Ogre (which is not true with a Titan with remaining
> > void shields)).
> >
> > Hopefully this would weaken them to a more acceptable level.
> >
> > DarylL
> >
>
> The rules look pretty good at the moment. However, I think the Ogres are
too
> cheap. For example: The Mark V has the equivalent firepower of 4 Quake
> cannons, 6 Turbolasers, 2 Bombard batteries (although the missiles are one
> shot, but still), and 12 carapace multi lasers (although the CMLs only hit
> on 5+ as opposed to the 4+ of the AP batteries), which would cost 85*4 +
> 75*6 + 2*200 + 12*10 = 1310 points. And this only includes the weapons.
> True, it does not have void shields, but it is also faster than Imperial
> titans, may make an unrestricted number of turns, fights like a command
unit
> and is immune to non physical psychic powers. IMO the Mk V should cost
about
> 2000 points.
>
> As for the AP batteries, I think 5+ to hit is quite enough.
>
> It's hard to say anything else before playtesting.
>
> Jyrki Saari
>
> -There is no such thing as free lunch because eating takes time and time
is
> money.
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