Hi!
This one has been around for as far as I can remember. They love bashing US gamers calling them "power-gamers" or as Josh pointed out "not playing right". Yet they do not complain when its GW US which keeps GW in the black and profitable-hypocrites.
Even WOTC, which some people can't stand uses beta-testers for their products. As a matter of fact I don't know ANY company, besides GW, who does not employ testers. Is their any wonder their games are so full of obvious errors. It kills me with laughter when hours after a GW release players find glaring mistakes.
I also laugh when they claim the professional mantle. There is a reason GW games NEVER win the best games design in Orgins awards. They win great mini, flashy product, etc. Of course they have also bashed those awards for being anti-GW. Anyone who doesn't recognize their greatness is in the wrong.
The ONLY advantage and albeit a large one is their market presence. Thier exclusive deals with WOTC to peddle their wares in their stores gives them a big edge, but companies like I-kore and historical mini companies, as Josh pointed out, are increasingly getting into tradional GW markets and their market share starts to get smaller. Their old "GW=quality" is becoming less true and in some cases downright false as these companies put equal quality for less cost.
hehe, I collect old dragon magazines its funny to see what GW was back then....
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: <deaconblue3_at_...>
To: <netepic_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:43 PM
Subject: [NetEpic ML] GW, play testing, and cticism
> Well, I've seen the reactions of GW staffers when they come over to the
> States for tourneys or Games days. I actually heard one staffer say that
> "You Yanks play the games all wrong." They always seem amazed at the way
> that non-UK players put together armies and their styles of play. At one
> time I asked about play testing. At that time I was told it was all
> handled in house, and that they didn't farm out their play testing. As
> Peter pointed out, this is bad game design. Case in point: WH40K 2nd,
> and the Wolf Guard Terminator with Assault cannon and thunder hammer.
> This error should have been caught in play testing, but the play testing
> was done entirely by the designers, so they failed to see the issue, as
> they already knew it wasn't possible. Based on experience, GW never
> truly accepts outside criticism, from anyone. The general attitude is
> "we're the professionals, and we know best." And if you do make a good
> suggestion, they often cop it for themselves, giving little, if any
> credit, making it entirely "their own idea and innovation." It's
> happened before. A few years ago there was a half baked idea to get the
> Epic community to get together and buy as many shares of GW as possible,
> to force them to bend to our will. Unfortunatley, we spent all our $$ on
> minis, and had nothing left to spend on stocks. GW is slowly pricing
> themselves out of the market. As companies like I-Kore and others get
> more widely distributed, GW sales will fall off, especially here in the
> States. Plus, the move by mainly historical companies into the fantasy
> realm, such as Old Glory and West Wind, and severely under cut GW prices
> (Old Glory 25mm Historicals generally run _at_$28 for a bag of 30 minis),
> their market share will decrease even more. GW's saving point at this
> time is their "super store" agreement with WOTC/Hasbro. They still hold
> a big edge in terms of marketing and distribution, as well as
> availability. GW-US has slowly been forcing out the independent
> retailer, in favor of centralized super stores, as evidenced by changes
> to the ordering procedures and order minimums. Now, who here remembers
> when GW was just TSR's UK distributor?
>
> Josh R
>
> "No matter where you go, there you are." B.Bonzai
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