I never understood these rules either, I mean, in terms of all around
effectiveness, these rules make the deathstrike pretty useless
compared to say, a battery of basilisks.
Where I get a total maximum of 3 shots (granted, high-powered shots),
vs. who knows how many shots with the basilisks.
I'm not against single-shot weapons, but if I can mount vortex
missiles on it, should the rules for the titan vortex missile and the
deathstrike vortext missile be compatible?
I think you were alluding to this in your mail, but I'm just chiming
in with my "newbie" understanding of this weapon system, and how it
seems... too limited...
I won't go into how I think the Eldar Titan chassis are
underpriced.. ;-)
-Chris
--- In netepic_at_y..., "Peter Ramos" <primarch_at_c...> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dkaardal [mailto:dkaardal_at_y...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:48 PM
> To: netepic_at_y...
> Subject: [NetEpic ML] Deathstrike question
>
> in the rules, it states:
>
> 1. They can only be fired on First Fire orders.
> 2. After being fired the missile moves up to 35 cm in each
> flyers phase
> 3. The missile has enough fuel for 4 turns, after which it must
> select a target or crash at the end of its movement.
> 4. The missile may select any target at any point during its
> move. It does not require LOS to the intended target when it is
fired.
> 5. Due to their speed only AA guns may target the missile and
> incurs a -2 penalty to hit.
> 6. These are one-shot weapons; a detachment has three total
> shots.
>
>
> I have an issue with rule # 2. Why can you fire at these cruise
> missles? and why the HECK are they slower then a rhino on charge?
>
> It was arbitrary, granted. But the original rules where so fiddly
that
> many wanted to change them.
>
> in the original rules, they were just like any other artillery. you
> fired them, and resolved as normal. Why give people a chance to
fire
> at them at all? I mean, sure, the warheads are pretty powerful...
but
> you only GET 3 shots, and it's a garaunteed cost of 250 points!
>
> That's true. I once had the idea to give them a range of something
like
> 100cm-150 cm, one shot and could be shot down by AA capable units
only
> at a penalty (-1 or -2). 250 points is a lot for a one shot so
> eliminating all the fiddly rules and treating it more like a regular
> battery sounds good.
>
> I'm just really puzzled. If you are going to change the way they
> fire, why would you make them so slow? There are ground troops that
> can move that fast on a charge! Is the missle's propulsion system a
> rubber band and a propeller?
>
> The problem is what consists a unit of time per movement in epic.
There
> are no such definitions in the game. A rhino may move that much in a
> turn, but it takes the whole turn to do, while the missiles
movement to
> cover that same movement is a blink of an eye. If you look at it in
> absolutes (all units move "x" per turn) then it's slow, but you
could
> also say it fired just as the unit finished moving and covered "x"
range
> very quickly. This is also compounded by the fact that the rhino
would
> move in the movement phase and the missile moves in the fire phase.
The
> time frames for both turn could be very different.
>
> Peter
Received on Thu Mar 28 2002 - 19:36:02 UTC