Hi!
“Political correctness”, Ug! I really hate that in real life let alone
in game. IF they are called Stormtroopers in 40k, call them so in epic.
Enough of that….
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Albert Farr� Benet [mailto:cibernyam_at_...]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:29 PM
To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Re: Re: [v5.0] Elite suggestion, Part II
Hi,
I agree the word stormtroopers (or "Sturmtruppen" to be exact) may be of
little political correctness, but have you read all the fluff? I think
that giving this name to an ork unit is something of little importance
compared with other "details".
Actually, in rogue trader Space Marines were commonly used to supress
insurrections in worlds, which meant killing all insurrectors (plus a
lot of suspicious of insurrection) so the rest of the population knew
what was about the imperial rules. Even more, Inquisitors were also
allowed to call for "cleanse duties" where Entire imperial planets where
bombarded from orbit until no life was left so they could be recolonized
with new and "pure" imperial colonists. Not to say psychers prosecution
and suppresion (food for the emperor) for being tainted and dangerous
for the rest of the humanity ( Doesn't ring you a bell?). I can add a
lot of examples (worse ones too) on this matter from Rogue Trader, and
still from newer editions of WH40k (which BTW have been soften on this
-and other- aspect).
The empire is a fascist organization from all points of view. Completely
Nazi if you want. I don't see any reason why ork names should be
politically correct.
Please don't misunderstand me. I think we are all able to make a
differentiation beetwen gameplay and real life. The fact that I play
with imperial armies, and enjoy it, doesn't mean at all that I like
fascism by any means. It's just the other way round, I hate it. I
understand this is just a game. I want to believe that the most (not to
say all) the people who play NetEpic are mature enough to understand
this is just a game and nothing more. Kids usually only play GW games...
If we were for political correctness, most of the fluff should be
erased. And truly, I don't want to play "the epic-sized game of
flower-power conflicts of the 41st millenium". I don't have anything
against flowwer-power, I just think 41st millenium is a cude, cruel
world, much worse than ours and fluff and names should reflect that.
But, anyway, a "Disclaimer" could be added at the beggining of the rules
if people think it's necessary.
Albert
----- Original Message -----
From: Weasel <mailto:weasel_fierce_at_...> Fierce
To: netepic_at_yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] Re: Re: [v5.0] Elite suggestion, Part II
>
>*laugh* I'm sorry - that arguement just seems a bit odd, since in your
>previous post you suggest renaming both bolters and twin-linked
lascannons
>as:
*grins* I dont mind generalizations of guns.
>I also object to the WWI German infantry - they weren't nice people
then,
>either. NetEpic is based off 40K but I do not feel we should feel bound
by
>what appears there. Unless I'm fielding a Star Wars Imperial army, I
don't
>want troops that remind me of Nazi Germany. Perhaps I'm making too much
of
>a small thing here, but I feel rather strongly about it.
>-Yar
In fact the ww1 germans were no worse than anyone else really. But thats
a
matter of oppinion.
We can go with another name if it is, but we should rename commissars
and
penal units then too, as they are almost direct copies of ww2 russian
stuff.
No offense intended, but remember that GW steals from history all the
time
:)
Weasel
How many lives will be taken today?
How many times will we just look away?
Pennywise - One voice
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