Re: [NetEpic ML] [v5.0]Chaos army list

From: Tim Batten <cbbr24447_at_...>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:43:44 -0000

Been lurking on the list for a while and noticed the dilema


>I don't like the idea of reducing Chaos cards. It doesn't attack the problem mentioned previously. OK, >now GD are easier to bring down, but the problem wasn't mixing GD, the problem was the possibility >to field a really good choice of troops. This way we don't limit at all this advantatge. It's the same as >ballancing SM for excessive deployment speed, reducing the number of void shields on titans.

  In this sense you are correct and this will weaken old style chaos armies more than new one.
  There is no doubt that the inbalance caused to the chaos army list has been caused by such a wide range of daemon engines avalible, as chaos was fine pre titan legions

  when the new daemon engines were released our gaming group soon realised the power of a multi power force and after a series of arguments we made it so armies including daemon engines from more powers had to pay an increased amount for all their daemon engines. I cant remeber the exact values however i think approx values were

  1 power list cost
  2 powers 150% list cost
  3+ powers 200% list cost

  This increase did not apply to greater deamons or titans even patron specific

>I think animosity is the key to balance the advantage of such a big choice of (good) troops. The point >is that mixing different chaos powers units, the chaos player gets a superior army. So, limiting the >playability of such mixtures is the key to balance that advantatge (IMHO)

>I proposed an idea of animosity rule. Some people think that makes the game a bit slow. While I >don't agree, I keep thinking that's the right way to balance the army, so I expect other proposals >people doesn't like the rule.

>Also let me reply to those who think that my proposal slows the game too much, that figures in hand >it's not so slowing. Since in a 3000 - 5000 point game, the number of detachments of a Chaos army >is not SO large (and still they must be close to check animosity), the time loss is not significant. Ork >armies also have to check wether Nobz are in distance, Tyranids have to check hive mind radius and >IG also do for command radius. Has anyone even whispered about modifying this rules to speed up >the game? Is it so stressful to measure 30cm and then roll a die before activating a detachment? I >don't think so. It's just a matter of playtesting.

>As every new rule, it seems it should bog down the game at the beggining, but after some games, >people get used to it and the game doesn't slow any more.

  i like the idea of animosity for the powers however i would like to suggest that any unit only need make one animosity roll and only against the closest opposing power unit within 30cm. ( maybe make it so there is a preference between powers so not necessarily closest unit)

  Tim
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