Vangaurds in Mechs need LOS
Slann Magus in a Mech does not need LOS
Slann Magus using "See Warp Gate" can direct any warping unit without LOS
Teras
-----Original Message-----
From: Karlsen Rune <rune.karlsen_at_...>
To: 'netepic_at_egroups.com' <netepic_at_egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 12:48 AM
Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] How to beat the Slann?
> Well, it doesn't say LOS in the rules with the Exodus mage chief
> warp gate, so this has probably been left out then. Either way, i
> didn't warp them into a forest, i warped them outside, and moved
> them in :-)
>
> Rune
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hellreich_at_... [mailto:hellreich@...]
> Sent: 2000-04-27 00:53
> To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] How to beat the Slann?
>
> Well they need to play so we can work out what needs to be
>changed, or
> modify. Well you are bending the rules there for they would
>not be able to
> warp to a point out of line of sight Right, oops should say
>with in 30cms
> and line of sight.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Karlsen Rune <rune.karlsen_at_...>
> To: <netepic_at_egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 2:19 AM
> Subject: RE: [NetEpic ML] How to beat the Slann?
>
>
> > Hi :-)
> >
> > Two of the other players in my group (Eivind & Nils)
>suggested the
> > following :
> > Mech Warp Displacement shield at 5+
> > No regeneration for Necrons in CC (this would also apply
>to all
> > healers)
> > Vanguard save 4+ modifyable to 6+
> > Necron Raiders and Assault units reduce CAF by 2
> >
> > That's about it i think. I'm very reluctant to change
>anything yet,
> > simply
> > because ive only played 4 games. These games were
>overwhelming wins,
> > with a personal best of 72-5 i think. It has to be said
>that we have
> > a special
> > house rule regarding barrages and buildings, which make
>them harder
> > to
> > take out, which ive used extensively to my advantage :-)
> > The problem is, they don't want to play against me any
>more, as they
> > see
> > no point in it. I really havn't made any mistakes in the 4
>games ive
> > played,
> > as far as i can remember. The problem is that noone can
>touch me in
> > CC,
> > and the Neuro Disruptor missiles stops a lot of units from
>even
> > getting close.
> > I mostly field the following : Heavy Mechs, Vanguards,
>Raiders,
> > Nemesis tanks
> > and a Great mage and an Exodus mage + some protectors for
>inf
> > support.
> > This combo seems to work very well, specially when using
>the Exodus
> > mage
> > gate power to move my Vanguards up to 60cms in a single
>move. Move
> > them
> > into a house or woods, and they really rock! :-) Of
>course, they
> > cost a lot, and
> > i think the price is justified...
> >
> > Rune
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Ramos [mailto:pramos2_at_...]
> > Sent: 2000-04-25 16:40
> > To: netepic_at_egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [NetEpic ML] How to beat the Slann?
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Since you are playing them, what do you think you should
> > change? What have
> > the other players suggested the changes should be?
> >
> > It is always hard to beat a new army since the tactics
> > needed may not be
> > obvious.
> >
> > Another thing is, if you are playing very well, how can
>you
> > tell if its the
> > rules or just you? Very diffcult I'd say.
> >
> > Other questions are, are you winning even when you make
> > mistakes or are you
> > winning because you're opponent is making mistakes?
> >
> > The problem is that others who have tested the slann have
> > mixed results,
> > some have reported a 50-50% win-lose ratio. I understand
> > that your opponent
> > are experienced, but their experience is limited to
>standard
> > armies not this
> > new one.
> >
> > It would be helpful if the other slann players give their
> > input, also it
> > would help to know what your tactics are and what your
> > opponent does.
> >
> > Another good idea is for YOU to play another army and have
> > your opponent
> > play the slann. If you still beat him its a matter of
> > tactics, if he beats
> > you easily then its a matter of the rules.
> >
> > I'd say the nuero disruptor ignores cover modifiers. As
>for
> > th Necrons self
> > repair, I am inclined to say it does not work after CC,
>but
> > I would ike to
> > hear other poeples take on this.
> >
> > Another thing is that two experienced players do not
>always
> > yield a close
> > result. Th reason it looks like that is because you're
> > gaming partner
> > already knows you're style of play and anticipates your
> > moves. If you have
> > played versus experienced gamers that you usually have not
> > played with you
> > will notice that games can vary a lot in outcome.
> > Familiarity makes games
> > even. In this case he is not familiar with your tactics
>yet,
> > but after a
> > while he will learn.
> >
> > By the way how many games have you won playing slann? A
> > habdful may not be
> > representative since your opponent is still learning a
>dozen
> > or so wins
> > without loses may be more significant.
> >
> > Opinions?
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > >I play the Slann, and have since i bought the miniatures,
> > played 4 games.
> > >Against
> > >Eldar, the Orks, TG and Squats. Every time i have beaten
> > them hard. In
> > >retrospect,
> > >they didn't even stand a chance. So, we've been wondering
> > how well the
> > Slann
> > >have
> > >been playtested, and also about the battles played where
> > the Slann lost.
> > >Were these
> > >losses close, and when they won, where they overwhelming
> > victories? My
> > >friends are
> > >threatening to stop playing with me, since they see no
> > point in playing a
> > >game they
> > >cannot win. They want to change the stats on some of the
> > units and keep the
> > >cost.
> > >Needless to say, i don't want that, but i'll have to if i
> > want to play. We
> > >mostly play
> > >4k points, and no flyers.
> > >
> > >I also have two rules questions : 1) Do modifiers for
>cover
> > apply when
> > >firing the
> > >Neuro Disruptor missiles or Mantis Missiles?
> > >2) Does the Necron ability to regenerate apply to CC as
> > well?
> > >
> > >If anybody has any experience playing with or against the
> > Slann, please
> > post
> > >your
> > >opinions. Have my opponents simply not found the right
> > tactic? Two of them
> > >are
> > >experienced players, and any battles with them should be
> > close imho.
> > >
> > >Rune
> > >
> >
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