Hi Eivind!
Congrads on your victory. I've never played against/with the Slann, but
they sound horrific.
Just curious, how many games have the Slann won, lost, or tied?
I read Peter's post about it being a mistake to NOT land on turn 1. But
I think you did the right thing. Drop Pods can really paralyze an
enemys movement. I remember the first time it happened to me ;)
After a couple of poundings, you learn how to deal with it better, and
maintain a counter attack group. But it's NEVER easy. Interesting that
you lost 75% of your Pods. My usual best at shooting them down averages
about 25%.
I like your force selection, but I wouldn't be able to play it with our
Flyer House Rules. Flyers are Special Cards, 300pts. per card. But
with your rules, it looks really good, and REALLY MOBILE! Yeh!!!
I love to play Ultra Marines. Although they don't have the flashy close
combat ability of the Space Wolves, they hold thier own. I always love
to hear of Orthodox troops kicking butt, and taking no prisoners!
Thanks for the Battle Report, you made my day!
Warprat ;)
Eivind Borgeteien wrote:
>
> It is now 21 30 local time in Norway, and we have just finished off
> our first game where Slann was defeated. I have also uploaded a map
> made in powerpoint to the vault. To get it, use this link.
>
> http://www.egroups.com/files/netepic/map%2Eppt
>
> Here are the main events:
>
> FORCES: (3000 points)
> Space Marines:(Yours truly...)
> 1 assault company in 3 T-hawks
> 1 veteran company in drop pods
> 1 teleported CA terminatordetachment
> 1 detachment of marauder FB
> 2 detachments of bikes
>
> Slann:(Rune)
> 1 Gravguard company
> 1 Necron raider cube
> 1 Frog medium mech pod
> 1 nemesis mbt detachment
>
> THE BATTLEBOARD:(Described left to right)
> Setupside 1: A city, a forrest, a city, then another forrest
>
> Middle area: A forrest with a river running out of it into a pond
> surrounded some ruins. A is bridge is crossing the river. Some more
> ruins, then a hilltop.
>
> Setupside 2: A hilltop, a forrest, then another hilltop.
>
> Rune got to choose side, and not suprisingly, he chose setupside 1.
>
> SETUP
> Space marines:
> I put all my flyers in the middle of my setupzone, as close to the
> setupline as possible. One bike det. behind the forrest in the middle
> joined by the assault-companys captain, and one bikedet behind the
> hilltop on the right side.
>
> Slann:(left to right)
> Nemesis MBT in the left city joined by a gravguard det. 3 frogs and
> a necron detachment between the city and the forrest, a necrondet. in
> the forrest, 3 frogs and a necrondet. between the forrest and the
> other city, a vanguardfrog and a gravguarddet in this city, then
> finally a gravguard in the forrest to the extreeme right.
>
> TURN 1:
> I decided not to bring in my droppods this turn.
>
> Slann moved his leftmost necrons to the outskirt of the forrest to
> claim the objective in the ruin ahead. He also moved his
> gravguarddet. on his extreeme right up to an objective point in the
> ruin below the hilltop. The vanguard moved up to the forrest on the
> left. All other units remainded still on FF, and gunned down all of
> my flyers during the turn! (NOTE: We dont use snapfire but have our
> own rules regarding flyers. Nils posted them a while ago.)
>
> I moved my T-hawks over the forrest and unleashed my assault troopers
> on the necrons there, outnumbered them, and broke the unit. (We have
> as a houserule that troopers with jumppacks can paradrop out of the
> transporting flyer) The terminators also teleported into the forrest
> and engaged the necrons. Unfortunately theese where all on FF so two
> termies never saw CC. The other two did their job quite well though.
>
> I moved one bikedet behind the forrest in the middlearea, claiming
> the objective point there. The other bikedet moved ahead to a
> reserveposition behind a ruin on the right side. The assault
> commander claimed an objectivepoint in one of the ruins by the pond.
>
> TURN 2
> This turn I brought in my droppods, trying to land on the frogs and
> necrons between the forrest and the right city. Slann had most of his
> units on FF so only FOUR of the SIXTEEN pods made it to the ground!
> This however, where Slanns biggest mistake as it left his frogs open
> for my few, but still remaining assaultmarines, witch now could go
> into CC without having to worry about being gunned down. Needless to
> say they broke the frogcompany.
>
> My two still-alive-and-kicking termies where chopped to pieces by the
> remaining necrons, not having the brains to flee once broken.
>
> The vanguard on the left moved into the forrest and captured the
> objectivepoint from me.
>
> Now when all of slanns units had used their firepower in the
> beginning of the movementphase, my bikes and commander could mop up
> another five objectivepoints without having to worry about being shot
> to pieces.
>
> This gave me a total of 6 objectivepoints, and Slann 2, securing my
> victory 47 to 31.
>
> AFTERMATH:
> Teleporting terminators:
> As I expected, theese where VP-giveaways. At least they are not as
> cheesy as some people feared. I think they add some flavor to the
> game though, and I will definetly use them again to see how they fare.
>
> Slann forces:
> Now this is a predicament, they lost bigtime but I still think they
> need some finetuning to be properly balanced. After all, this was the
> most "cheesy" SM force I have ever fielded.
>
> I put together only the best of the best and used the rules,
> houserules and units to the very best of its abilities and my
> advantage. I did no tactical mistakes (Quite unusual!)It all went
> according to my plan, making Slann sit tight and shoot so I could mop
> up the objective points.
>
> With all this in place, only one thing made Slann loose the battle,
> he wasted all to much firepower on the incomming pods. When the
> movementphase was over he had no units at all to fire. This is a
> mistake I know Rune wont do again! He should not had used his frogs
> at the pods, but waited until FF Phase to take down the marines
> disembarking on advanceorders. Then they would have been much easier
> targets.
>
> If he also had holded the nemesis MBTs and/or the frogs on his left
> flank my bikes could not take two objective points without being
> shot to pieces on the open ground. With the frogs still able to
> shoot, I would definately thougt twice about charging them!
>
> So in conclusion, I would say that in order to be properly ballanced,
> all the Slann units used in this battle needs to be reduced in ways
> of number of attacks, and/or roll to hit. It was a one-time-mistake
> that made Slann loose today, and quite frankly, I cant play any
> better than I played today, and SM cant field any better units than
> those used today.
>
> Eivind
>
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