Re: [Epic] cheese

From: Spatula <shupes_at_...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:08:45 -0500

> From: John A Chapman <jac_at_...>
>
> 50 points can be useful - but theres quite a few companies which
> dont even get the free command unit.......Sad that someone thought beastmen
> were only 50 pts worse thean minotaurs.......Chaos probably deserves to pay more
> for the company strength stuff because its not something they normally get
> (well thats what the fluff would heve me believe anyway).

        Fluff doesn't mean anything, play balance should be the
ultimate guide. Chaos can only have 4 companies, max, as it is,
they don't need any more restrictions than that. Companies are
too useful to charge extra for them.

> > > Yeah the ravenwings not bad - but not really points efficient (well
> > > its about as good as marines get with the exception of scout companies).
> >
> > It's 400 points for 550 points of bikes/speeders.
> > THat's not points efficient?
>
> Not when the marine bikes (that go towards the 'normal cost') are
> overpriced to begin with. They cost 50% more than the equivalent ork or IG
> unit.....I think this is the same sort of problem with eldar bikes/windhosts.

        Uhm... IG bikes have a morale of 4, SM bikes are 2. Since
you have to make a morale check every time you get in CC if you're
broken, and bikes aren't good for much else besides CC, that makes
a huge difference. IG bikes also have an annoying tendancy to rout
if the chain of command breaks down.

        Besides, the bikes in the Ravenwing are free (400 pts
for 2 200 pt units of speeders). And I think they're only 33%
more expensive than IG bikes (150 vs 100), although I'm not
sure about the IG bike cost.

> You think - 'gee a wind host is a bargain compared to the individual
> units' - but then again the individual unit is overpriced so its not as much
> of a bargain as it first appears. This is mainly due to the minimum points
> increment of 50 (theres another thread aboutthat somewhere at the moments) I
> guess.

        Exactly. Jetbikes are better than bikes (since they're
skimmers & they move faster), so they cost 50 pts more (200 pts).
Vypers are better than jetbikes, so they cost 50 pts more (250 pts).
Result: overpriced eldar bike detachments.

Scott
shupes_at_...
Received on Thu Jan 30 1997 - 16:08:45 UTC