Re: [Epic] Pop-up attacks

From: <duckrvr_at_...>
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 11:23:37 -0600

At 10:45 02/03/1997 -0500, you wrote:

>> After a
>> few games where (as an eldar player) I had more units that were on 1st fire
>> therefore left the pop-ups until after the opposition had run out of units
>> on 1st fire and thus prevented them from being shot at there were a lot of
>> screams...thus the current rule.
>
> Well, that's your advantage as Eldar. You pay for it by
>having vehicles with a poor CAF, which allows this chaos player to
>fly in buttloads of THawks and beat up your tanks with few problems.

Not to mention you PAID THE POINTS to have skimmers. If someone else can't
buy skimmers as cheaply, tough. You can't buy thawks. If someone else
can't afford to have as many units on FF, tough. You have a shooty army.

It sounds like you should make Sir Chaos stick to a lot of the Q&A stuff.
Even if you play that everything pops up at the beginning of FF (the
fairest, I think), then you still get a chance ot fire your Tempests before
Magnus either by winning initiative, or because he may have something else
he wishes to FF first.

>> > Being hit by a WS doesn't count as being immobilised for
>> > the Doomweaver, according to Jervis & ANdy.

A dumb ruling if you ask me. WS's won't hit more than a handful of models,
and DW's have a slim chance of hitting a specific unit (unless it's
titan-sized), and a small area. I think the wording is pretty clear, and it
is hardly overpowering.

>>
>> So the cant move or shoot description in the WS's effects means nothing

Yeah, basically that's what they said.

>
> It means they can't shoot and can't gang up on the troops
>charging out of the WS... kinda important when those troops charging
>out only come in groups of 4.

Whatever. Who's going to have anything but Banshees, Scorpions or
Harlequins in their Waveserpents? I say let 'em dog pile me. That just
gives me more stands to kill in HTH.

>>. Makes you wonder what does qualify for
>> immibilised - not much i guess....).
>
> Mind Lock. Titan that just fired a Plasma Destructor. etc.

Right, that's about it. Not much.

I think all this is a result of some perceived cheese factor on the part of
Doomweavers. I'm beginning to see why the Eldar players on this list all
think DW's are useless. They've been hamstrung by unreasonable rulings.
They were a pretty limited use item before, because they needed a special
combinations to be really effective. Now they don't even have the chance to
use those combos.

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Received on Mon Feb 03 1997 - 17:23:37 UTC