RE: [Epic] Chaos Land Raiders

From: Kelley, Kevin J., JCS <kevin.kelley_at_...>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:13:54 -0400

IMHO what is unbalancing with AT is the ability to pick the tgt - with no
restriction like have to pick the closest "vehicle" target. Also the
abiliity to kill a five man (or 3 bike/boar) stand with one shot is a little
extreme. In 40k best a lascanon can do is kill one model. If the rules
stated it could ignore only stands with more than one model on it then it
could not snipe at cdrs and ork speedstas for example. Likewise if an AT
shot at a say 3 bike stand it should only have a 1 in 3 chance to kill all
3.

kevin.kelley_at_...
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> From: Aaron Day[SMTP:akkala_at_...]
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 1998 9:26 AM
> To: space-marine_at_...
> Subject: Re: [Epic] Chaos Land Raiders
>
> IMHO what is unbalancing with AT is the ability to pick the tgt - with no
> restriction like have to pick the closest "vehicle" target. Also the
> abiliity to kill a five man (or 3 bike/boar) stand with one shot is a
> little extreme. In 40k best a lascanon can do is kill one model. If the
> rules stated it could ignore only stands with more than one model on it
> then it could not snipe at cdrs and ork speedstas for example. Likewise
> if an AT shot at a say 3 bike stand it should only have a 1 in 3 chance to
> kill all 3.
>
> Kevin
> Tyler Provick wrote:
> >
> > > 1. Make their AT attacks hit on 5 or 6s instead of 4+
> > > 2. Treat all AT shots as 1 FP unless shooting at vehicles.
> > >
> > > A
> >
> > Number 2 doesn't change much, as it is vehicles that AT shots are most
> usefull
> > against. As for making their AT shots hit on a 5 or 6 plus, what is the
> point of
> > taking them? Really all you get is an extremely expensive 2 FP tank,
> which is also
> > slow.
>
> Not really, a 5+ AT shot is still better than 1. Allow me to demonstrate
> ...
>
> Number of kills based on a 10 vehicle detachment
>
> 4+ AT 5+ AT
> Land Raider 10 6.66
>
> 3+ Armor 4+ Armor 5+ Armor 6+ Armor
> Leman Russ 10 7.5 5 2.5
>
> You can see that the Land Raider out performs a Leman Russ against all
> enemy types. I costs only 10% more and is slightly slower but has
> transport capacity. With a 5+ AT shot it is better than the Leman Russ
> against armored targets while worse against soft targets which is how it
> performs in 40K. This table doesn't take into acount the AT shots power
> of picking a target which is a huge benefit.
>
> >
> > Personally after playing against a SM army with a huge tank detachment
> composed
> > mostly of Landraiders, I can't complain. Marines may be a more forgiving
> army, but
> > I don't think they're better then any other. Sure if someone is
> powergaming Land
> > Raiders are too powerfull, but it's a moot point if the player is
> powergaming.
> >
>
> Unfortunately the Land Raider comes with the box and is a common weapon
> accourding to the fluff, so a detachment carried around by 10 Land
> Raiders isn't unfluffy.
>
Received on Fri Jul 10 1998 - 14:13:54 UTC