Re: [Epic] ork artillery question

From: Stephen Sheldon <stephes_at_...>
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:58:11 -0700 (PDT)

>
> >hi aquestion arose in a battle last night that we couldn't find an
> >answer to. can ork big gunz and pulsa rokkits "hitch a ride" and then
> >fire either a prepatory barrage or normal barrage upon being dropped
> >off. i thought i had read that they couldn't move and then fire but i
> >couldn't find any reference to that. my opponent argued that they hadn't
> >actually moved, they had been "transported" and thus could fire. at
> >first i thought that was ridiculous but since i couldn't find any
> >reference to the contrary i think he might be right. we resolved it by
> >letting him barrage but not prepatory barrage. so what da ya think?
>
> I agree that transported units could not be used to prep fire (though
> they could be on overwatch). This seems fair and reasonable enough,
> since units on overwatch can move, and the ork player could say they
> are using that movement to hitch/unhitch the guns.
>
> If your opponent is a rules lawyer (and it sounds like it), try this:
>
> Page 45 of the rules, under Preparatory Bombardment:
>
> "To undertake a preperatory bombardment, place a marker dice to show
> the 'special orders' or "!" face by the detachment at the start of
> the movement phase, before initiative is drawn. This shows that the
> artillery units in the detachment can fire a preparatory barrage in
> the movement phase *instead of moving*" (emphasis mine).
>
> and
>
> "Note that if the artillery from a detachment fires a preperatory
> barrage, the the artillery units can't move"
>
> Clearly, if a unit ends it's turn in a different spot from where it
> started, it has *moved*. It doesn't matter if it was transported,
> walked, teleported, or was miracled there by the power of God, it
> has still moved.
>
> This is different from what the "Orks Hitching a Lift" rule says
> (page 15 of the rules):
>
> "Ork infantry units can hitch a lift on battlewagons and Battle
> Fortresses by hanging on to the outside of the vehicle. Orks
> can't *move on their own* in the same phase if they hitch a lift,
> but the vehicles move is unaffected..." (emphasis mine)
>
> So units hitching a lift can move (obviously, they end up on a
> different spot!), they just can't move seperately from the vehicle.
> This does not in any way circumvent the restriction on "not
> moving" artillery units on prep bombardment orders.
>
IF only all arguments could be handled this sensibly on this list.
Steve
Received on Fri Jun 27 1997 - 16:58:11 UTC